Gentlemen, if you run an Imail server with spam filtering you should know what I meant. I am not talking about an ISP filter words. What I mean is it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to know which ISP companies are allowing spammers and it wouldn't be that hard for them to monitor it and put a stop to the true spammers. It would only require a few samples per IP that is mass mailing. Easy to detect which IP's are mass mailing.
Ted -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Barker Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 4:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Lycos goes limp I got a postmaster message years ago I thought was quite interesting. I was sending (from a Program that built PDF's from a Domino website - Also including the plain text) of Cancer Information Documents. Some cancers affect body parts (imagine that!). The postmaster note said something to the effect of: "One of your emails contained the word vagina and may be smut. It was delivered, but you should verify one of your customers is not misusing the 'net". Very professional response, I thought. I wrote a nice reply. Bad Word, cum. As in "Summa Cum Laude". Bad Word, ...... you get the drift. Dan ps: I wonder if this will get through with vagina twice and cum three times<g>? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bruce Barnes Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 7:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Lycos goes limp Since every user's definition of "spam" is different, it makes it exceedingly difficult for the ISP to do the enforcing. If there was a standard definition of what constitutes spam, it would make the proposal you have outlined much easier. If we filter all of the porn, then one user complains. If we filter all the "advertising" another user complains. If we filter word or phrase "a" then another user complains, if we filter word or phrase "b" another user complains that we are infringing on their right to receive and send e-mail based on free speech - and I agree with them. In order for ISPs to filter spam, everyone has to agree on what constitutes spam. That would be like trying to get my family to agree on which movie to go see on a saturday night or what television program to watch - impossible. Bruce Barnes -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ted Galerneau Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 19:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Lycos goes limp There has to be other ways to win, just a matter of finding what really works. Strong legislation against those who allow it is what I wish for. But if I wish in one hand and diddle in the other, I know which one will get full the fastest :( Seriously speaking, I wonder who we could all petition to try and force the major ISP companies to enforce monitoring for spammers and stopping those who do it. Someone stated in this thread that it will never happen, if nobody lobbies for it or tries to get the ball rolling, of course it will never happen. Any suggestions anyone? Ted -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Len Conrad Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 2:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Lycos goes limp >I thought this was a fantastic idea but wanted to see them get it off the >ground before installing anything. This probably wont wake people up to >just how much influence spammers have and their growing power. Lycos was not distributed, not clever at all. And the criminals sent an immediate and extremely clear message: "Internet belongs to us, and DON'T THINK ABOUT TRYING TO TAKE IT BACK, OR WE WILL DESTROY YOU." Len _____________________________________________________________________ http://IMGate.MEIway.com : free anti-spam gateway, runs on 1000's of sites To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
