At 01:20 PM 1/11/2005, you wrote:
Well done, It is good to get some positive news from IpSwitch.

Huh? What good news?

Allow me to "parse" the Ipswitch response to see if I can find this good news.

1. We know that there is a serious flaw in our webmessaging
2. We don't know how to fix it.
3. We will (plan? hope?) release a new product at some undetermined point in the future that will probably fix the current issue so when you are ready to spend between $4,000 and $9,000 with us on this new software you will find that we may have fixed some of this pesky reported problems.


Did I miss something or were you just being sarcastic too.


Regards
Terence Blyth

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 5:00 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail 8.15 has been released


Hi All,

We are very aware of the limitations in our current web messaging
implementation, and while we have tried to address them where we could, we
have acknowledged that there are places, that are very significant, where we
can't fix the issues.  As we look toward the future, our goal is to deliver
new web messaging and collaboration functionality taking advantage of tried
and true industry standards.  We are very excited about delivering this new
functionality, but do not have an ETA for its release.  We will keep you
posted on our progress.

Best regards,
Jill Jones
Product Manager, Messaging
Ipswitch, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Barker
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 7:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail 8.15 has been released

Would someone who has a current S/A please report this bug to Support. It
seems it's less interesting if you haven't coughed up the $4K.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 6:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<snip>
IP-00400708  THIS IS AN EXPIRED S/A, HAS ALREADY HAD A COURTESY
CALL, IS THIS A BUG???
</snip>

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Horne
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 12:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail 8.15 has been released


I just verified this. I have to agree that this is a serious bug.



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Barker
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 12:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail 8.15 has been released

I just installed 8.15, hoping it would work with attachments correctly. It
didn't. There appeared to be a lot of mail handling (in IWebMsg) fixes the
list, but my pet peeve is still broken. If a Text Email has an HTML
attachment, IMail renders the HTML and NOT THE TEXT (unless you click on
Printable Version).

THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS AND SHOULD BE FIXED.
THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS AND SHOULD BE FIXED.
THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS AND SHOULD BE FIXED.
THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS AND SHOULD BE FIXED.
THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS AND SHOULD BE FIXED.
THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS AND SHOULD BE FIXED.

Here's the dangerous scenario (excerpted from my Bug report: Case:
T200410280244):

IMail's web mail chokes on "Content-Type: message/rfc822". I just did a test
with Microsoft Outlook 2K. I typed a simple message and dragged another
message to it as an attachment.

My message does not display on the Webmail client unless/until I click the
"Printable Version" button.

This is a VERY SEVERE error. Say a Microsoft spoof email came out with "in a
command prompt, enter DELTREE C:\WINNT to update to XP 4K" or some such
foolishness.

I send an email to my father saying:

"The attached email is crap. If you get anything like it, don't do it!

Your Son, the technonurd."


He receives the email, FROM ME!, opens it and it says:

"in a command prompt, enter DELTREE C:\WINNT to update to XP 4K"


How's he supposed to know to hit "Printable Version" to read what the message really says? If the "attached message" is HTML, the coversheet doesn't display except with Printable. Also, I see "------=_NextPart_000_037F_01C4BD03.2F63AEB0--" at the end of the html display, which also is wrong. It's just broken! If the attached message is plain text, it displays inline, even if the Preference is for a link. This is better, but still crap.

I cc'd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wonder what that'll do. Just in case they read
this, I'm IL-600690

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jill Jones
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [IMail Forum] IMail 8.15 has been released


Hi All,

Ipswitch is pleased to announce the release of IMail 8.15.

Please visit the links below to download and find out more about 8.15.

Best regards,
Jill Jones
Product Manager, Messaging
Ipswitch, Inc.

Link to files:

http://www.ipswitch.com/support/ICS/index.asp
http://www.ipswitch.com/Support/ICS/updates/im815.html
http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/templates.html

Link to Release Notes:

http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20050107-DM01.htm

Release Notes:
Details :
o System-wide: Consistent handling of first, last, and full names has been
implemented.
 - Rules for generating the fullname from its components are now consistent
throughout the system.
   - If both first and last names are supplied,
     fullname = first + space + last
   - If only last name is supplied,
     fullname = last
   - If only first name is supplied,
     first name is copied to last name
     first name is made empty
     fullname = last (with value previously in first)
   - If neither first nor last is supplied
     userid is copied to last name
     fullname = last (with value copied from userid)
 - Rules for breaking the fullname into its components
   are now consistent throughout the system.
   - If the fullname contains a space,
     Everything up to the first space is copied to the
     first name
     Everything after the first space is copied to the
     last name
   - If the fullname does not contain a space
     Fullname is copied to last name
     First name is empty
 - In IAdmin, the first and last names are used to generate the Fullname
field in the registry and to populate the gn, sn, and cn LDAP values if LDAP
is running.
 - Previously, changes to LDAP attributes of gn, sn, and cn could be made
independently of changing the Fullname in the registry.  These changes are
now synchronized when using IAdmin, LDAPer, and Web Messaging.
 - In Web Messaging, the LDAP fields of First, Last, and Common Name all
still accept data, but the value entered in the Common Name field is parsed
to create the gn and sn LDAP attributes...effectively ignoring the values
entered in the First and Last fields.
 - Adduser now accepts names with or without spaces.
o Anti-Spam: Content filtering is no longer applied to Trusted IPs in
multiple message sessions o IAdmin: 0.0.0.0 is no longer accepted by the
Access Control dialogs as a valid IP address.
o IMAP4D32: OR command now properly handles SEARCHes.
o IMAP4D32: Now correctly handles LISTing a mailbox specified with a
trailing slash.
o IMAP4D32: No longer incorrectly reports two INBOXes.
o IMAP4D32: Corrected FETCH BODYSTRUCTURE handling of some messages with
specific formatting.
o LDAP: Can now store and retrieve Japanese names.  The data is now UTF-8
encoded when using Japanese.
o Mailall: Now calls Queue Manager instead of SMTP32 directly.
o Web Messaging: The Fullname tag now returns the Fullname. Use the
GivenName tag to retrieve the first name o Web Messaging: List
Administration no longer incorrectly modifies the owner of a list.
o Web Messaging: Fixes made to both B-Encoding and Q-Encoding logic to
better handle Japanese text and filenames.
o Web Messaging: Line breaks no longer cause text color
 changes under certain conditions.
o Web Messaging: Improved handling of quoted printable content.
o Web Messaging: Attachments are no longer renamed when
 Content-type is incomplete.


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