Thanks Len,  that's how I feel exactly!

Christopher Checca
Packard Transport, Inc.
IT Department
24021 South Municipal Dr
PO Box 380
Channahon, IL.  60410
815 467 9260
815 467 6939 Fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.packardtransport.com
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Len Conrad
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 8:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] reverse DNS


>If

if if if  ...  Your whole point is built on a hypothetical, my policy is 
built on conrete results.

Blocking subscriber networks by PTR domain works very well.  No IFs.

>your predatory SPAM blocking policies block those emails

"predatory"  WTF?

Just who is getting "preyed" upon here?

My MX

Just who is permitting my MX to be preyed upon by infected PCs, by the 10's 
of 1000's of predatory attacks per day, for years and years?

The subscriber network operator who refuses, for economic reasons, to 
police his networks, who refuses to block egress to port 25, whose refusal 
to pay the cost of policing his networks is shifting the cost of defense to 
my MX.

>your customers are the ones who lose sales and end the end this will
>reflect on you the service provider.  This is true whether you are an
>ISP providing mail to external customers or an IT staff providing email
>service to internal users.

The blocking of subscriber networks by  PTR shifts the costs back onto 
those networks. It is now THEIR problem to cleanup their networks, it is no 
longer my cost of defending myself from their unrelenting, horrific attacks.

>You can not change the way others choose to run their business

Absolutely false.  Get your mailserver's IP blacklisted, and you will very 
quickly react to get it unlisted.

>  but you
>may have to adapt the way you look at things to allow your customers to
>be happy with your service.

The cost of getting a legit server white-listed is pushed back onto that 
legit server, which should address the reason of the blacklisting problem 
with their access provider, NOT me and my MX.  My MX is guilty of 
absolutely nothing other than the lowest-cost self-defense.

You people are so blinded by the insane status quo, that you can't think or 
see straight.

Obsessed with the a couple of sparse, healthy trees, you people cannot, or 
will not, see the dense, huge forest of sick trees.

Len


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