Hi All!

 

I have commented on TRUNK-3361
<https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-3361>  and had a short call
with Darius to explain the use-case that we are trying to solve.  It has
more to do with requiring permissions for viewing/editing encounters
than it does to what users can fill out a given form. So, after a form
has already been filled out (which we'll called an encounter at that
point and is shown under the encounter/visit tab on the dashboard).  Who
has permissions to view it and/or edit it?  So for example, we need to
limit the viewing/editing of Blood Bank  encounters to only users of the
Blood Bank.  And we need to limit the editing of Lab encounters to only
Lab Technicians, but they can be viewable by doctors.  And we need to
limit the editing of surgery encounters by Surgery data entry clerks and
surgeons, but all doctors can view them.  If a user isn't going to be
able to view/edit the contents then it need not appear in the list of
encounters.

 

The view and edit role and/or privileges could be implemented on the
Edit Encounter Type page rather than on the Edit Form page.  The
consideration of doing it on the Edit Form page instead would be if
someone needed to limit viewing/editing of forms in the case of
different forms that use the same type of encounter.

 

Thanks for your patience and willingness to help make this needed
functionality a reality.

 

Thanks,

James

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Darius Jazayeri
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OPENMRS-IMPLEMENTERS] Roles and Privileges Sprint

 

Hi Implementers and Devs,

 

James has been pushing for TRUNK-1640 to be included in next week's
sprint (and I don't blame him--it has 6 votes!). But on today's design
call, we looked at the proposed solution in that ticket, and we're not
comfortable introducing it into the codebase with the given design.

 

In particular, it wants to create a form_role table that links forms to
the roles that are allowed to enter/edit them.

 

Instead, we have a counter-proposal, which I've ticketed at TRUNK-3361
<https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-3361> . Instead we would add a
form.entry_privilege column, so a sysadmin can create a privilege for
entering a particular form, and assign it to whatever role or roles they
choose.

 

James & others: would this solve your use case? If possible please
comment on the ticket. (I'm emailing this to both the implementers and
dev lists, so you won't all necessarily get each others replies.)

 

https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-3361

 

-Darius

 

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Ben Wolfe <[email protected]> wrote:

Looking at it briefly TRUNK-1640 looks very similar to what is on slate
for the gsoc project. Both are linked to forms, not to encounter types.


 

Ben

 

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Daniel Kayiwa <[email protected]>
wrote:


Hi James,

We shall not deal with TRUNK-1640 during GSOC because it will broaden
the scope more than what the student is expected to cover in that
limited time.

However, i see it fitting in next week's Roles and Privileges Sprint.
So i think we could consider it as part of what we are going to deal
with during that sprint.

What do others think?





On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:21 PM, James Arbaugh <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hi Darius,

 

Thanks for setting me straight.  I confused the "Restrict By Role
Module" with the "Restrict By Encounter Type Module" by the HISP India
group which would address the needs of TRUNK-1640.  We do NOT need the
"Restrict By Role Module".

 

I recently added TRUNK-1640 as "Extra Credit" on the Filtering Forms on
Dashboard Design Page because it's related. The GSoC main project is to
limit which forms appear in the list of forms that can be filled out.
TRUNK-1640 is to limit which role is required for given encounter types
to be viewed/edited.
https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Jembi+Html+Form+Entry+Module 

Roles Based Form Display

On the form designer, roles can be associated with forms. Roles
associated with a form can either be associated as a "View" role or an
"Edit" role (or the equivalent "Both" role). On the patient dashboard,
if there are roles associated with a form, then the currently
authenticated user must have the appropriate roles to view and/or edit a
form.

Can we make TRUNK-1640 an official requirement for the GSoC project?  Or
is that something that can be addressed through the Roles and Privileges
Sprint?

 

Thanks,

James

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Darius Jazayeri


Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 7:19 PM
To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [OPENMRS-IMPLEMENTERS] Roles and Privileges Sprint

 

About filtering things by roles...

 

Filtering forms by roles and patient characteristics is a GSoC project
this year (https://wiki.openmrs.org/x/OIW5AQ, student = Goutham
Vasireddi) so we will not be working on that during the sprint. (But
yes, we know it's highly voted and much awaited!)

 

The Restrict By Role
<https://modules.openmrs.org/modules/view.jsp?module=restrictbyrole>
module allows you to use Cohort Builder queries to limit the patients a
given Role can see. As far as I know, this is the only published module
that lets you limit the patients that particular users are allowed to
see, although that's a frequently-requested feature. This was a very
early module (from 2007), so the code is mediocre, it probably slows
down your patient searches a lot, and the API has changed since then so
it probably misses a lot of restrictions.

 

[The reason there aren't any other published modules doing this is that
it's basically impossible to solve the problem generically in a
performant way.)

 

So the question is: are there any implementers out there who would like
to see us spend some developer cycles doing a modernized version of
Restrict By Role? It would:

*       let you restrict the patients that particular users/roles can
see based on reporting module cohort queries (instead of cohort builder)
*       cache query results so it slows things down less than the
current module does

If there's interest, we can spend some cycles on this during the sprint.
(And if not, not.)

 

-Darius

 

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:22 PM, James Arbaugh <[email protected]>
wrote:

Greetings all!  

 

One of our highest priorities should be the RestrictByRole module
capability; the ability to specify which user roles can view/edit which
encounters.  This is important to many based on the number of people
that have voted (6) for the "Add roles-based form display feature
ticket"...

https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-1640

...which includes the ability to "filter form viewing and editing based
on roles".

 

This is also something that comes up frequently on the mailing list and
on OpenMRS Answers.

https://answers.openmrs.org/questions/585/a-way-to-set-role-privileges-t
o-specific-form-entry-forms

 

+1 on improving documentation

 

Thanks,

James

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Daniel Kayiwa
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 5:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [OPENMRS-IMPLEMENTERS] Roles and Privileges Sprint

 

Greetings to you all!!!

 

We are soon going to have a sprint on roles and privileges, during which
we are thinking of dealing with the following topics:

 

1) Make it easy for an admin to see what privileges are needed to
perform a sequence of actions. 

2) Improve the page a user sees when they fail a privilege check.

3) Improve documentation on how to use privileges/roles and avoid
pitfalls.

4) Implement Organizational Role as designed in this wiki page:
https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Organizational+Roles

 

Do you feel the above topics address what the community needs, as far as
roles and privileges are concerned?

Does anyone want a modernized version of the Restrict By Role module?

Do you have anything to say about the Organizational Role API design?

 

All questions, comments and suggestions are very welcome!!!

 

Daniel Kayiwa

On Behalf of the OpenMRS Community

 

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