Greetings!

Indeed, in general the Bing satellite image layer may have an offset
relative to the ground, yet, in this case (Fremont, CA) when opening both
layers (Microsoft and Fremont municipal layer) in JOSM, I can see that the
Microsoft layer is aligned fine with Bing imagery (which, in turn, is
aligned fine with available GPS tracks), while the municipal layer is
slightly shifted – and the shift is different for different blocks.
Recently, when I drew buildings in Berkeley, CA, and encountered the same
issue – the municipal layer has a slight offset, while the MS layer on
average is well aligned.

To the question on why the municipal layers may have bigger offsets than
the MS footprint layer: e.g., for Berkeley, CA, I know that their building
footprint layer was created in the first place for estimating the solar
potential of the roofs in the city, so, I guess, the accurate geometry of
buildings was important for that task, while the precise location of
buildings less so. Thus, the municipal layer has precise geometries but not
very precise locations. But, again, this is just my guess.

Yes, squaring helps remove some excessive details.

Best,
Yury


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> Hello,
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> I have some questions about the MS-buildings footprints. As I
> understand it, the Bing aerial imagery has an offset from the ground
> truth, and thus the MS-buildings footprints that derive from it. I see
> you have corrected the offset for the Fremont building footprints, but
> aren't they still offset? Do they now line up with the ground truth?
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> I ask these questions because I also plan on importing building
> footprint data myself.
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> On Sun, 2020-10-18 at 23:47 -0400, Yury Yatsynovich wrote:
> > Greetings!
> > As a continuation of my effort to import addresses in Alameda County,
> > California, I've been working on importing buildings for Fremont, CA.
> > Please, find a wiki page with a detailed description of this import
> > here:
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Fremont_CA_Buildings_Import.
> > Any feedback would be much appreciated.
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> Hi,
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> On 10/19/20 05:47, Yury Yatsynovich wrote:
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Fremont_CA_Buildings_Import
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> I am curious why the county GIS department apparently has data that is
> so low-quality that Microsoft's consumer-grade data can be used it
> improve its positional accuracy?
>
> The web site mentions the squaring of buildings. Is this to get rid of
> unwanted detail like the litte nooks visible in the 7 o'clock house in
> your image here
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Fremont_after_offset.png?
> Becasue I would agree that the building outlines in that image are
> seriously over-detailed for OSM.
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> Bye
> Frederik
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