On May 26, 2014 10:12 PM, "Serge Wroclawski" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Aaron, > > Your memory on the NYC import differs from mine. I recall the major > cause of stopping was not a technical issue- it was that MapBox > employees were importing recklessly (for a lack of a better word) , > and it was also due to lack of transparency by MapBox on the import > being done by paid mappers who were not in NYC, but were in Brazil. > > The NYC building import being done by remote mappers has had a number > of negative effects. >
I must assume were learned and this will not be the case this time. (i hope!) > Firstly, it's had a negative impact on the OSM community in NYC by > basically taking the wind out of our sails. OSM NYC was gaining > community interested in doing the import, but as soon as the paid > mappers worked full force, we saw a drastic reduction in community > participation. In addition, it had a major blow to our enthusiasm, me > included. Regret that. :( If fact, I signed up to organise a mapping party in NYC this upcoming weekend at wikiconference usa. (in the same neighborhood where I mapped diligently) Seeing all the stuff related, honestly I am not very enthusiastic now to organise the mapping party. I will wait and see now what the interest is from attendees and if they really want, I might do it. Otherwise, happy to skip it this time. > > Secondly, I'm still finding problems by the Brazilian digitizers, and > they do not respond to OSM messages, comments on their notes, or the > github that OSMers were instructed to use in leu of using standard OSM > communication methods. The only thing that I've found that they do > respond to consistently is being blocked by the DWG. That kind of lack > of communication hits me the wrong way. > > While the data quality of the NYC import may be good (I can't know for > sure), I cant tell myself. The GIS data itself must be quite good but equally or more important is how it is integrated with the osm data. From what I see in NYC, I am not convinced its so great. For DC, integrating the data is the key part. I am convinced that having the mapping dc community handle the tasks (via task manager to coordinate ) is the right approach. Have the folks on the mapping dc mailing list been informed yet? I am happy to make the connection if needed. the damage to the community in NYC has been quite strong. > > In addition to the NYC comparison- I'm still awaiting the answers that > Katie and I asked earlier in the weekend, I dont necessarily expect answers on holiday weekend. (although given the timeline on the wiki, maybe I should expect) and I'd like to add that > this plan does not address any question of ongoing stuardship of the > data, ie future updates, Looks like the captureyear field provides a good starting point and believe there is more potential to come up with a process for updating addresses. I need to take another look at the data to say more specifically. Cheers, Katie which is something that, during that pause, > it came out that MapBox would not do. > > - Serge > > _______________________________________________ > Imports mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports
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