On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 7:12 PM, sankarshan <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Ratnadeep Debnath <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Kushal Das <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 28/06/16, Sumantro Mukherjee wrote:
>>>> I am delighted to announce the Fedora 24 release party which is happening 
>>>> in Red Hat,Bangalore office on Sunday 3rd of July from 11:00am to 2:00pm. 
>>>> Needless to mention that's open to all and we will be discussing about 
>>>> some of the new features and the goodness which you can expect from Fedora 
>>>> 24. We will also talk about how you can participate in making Fedora 
>>>> better by contributing to different projects. We would like to know the 
>>>> amount of people who are willing to come up and hence giving us a reply to 
>>>> this email with RSPV might help us anticipate the number of attendees.

>>> Just wondering if you have talked with the local ambassadors first, who
>>> organize regular Fedora Bangalore events? I can not see any planning
>>> discussion, just a direct announcement.
>>
>

> I'm not sure if a conversation with me counts. In continuance of the
> small bits of work Sumantro is putting together, I had requested him
> to check if there is a possibility of putting together a small party
> to celebrate the release of Fedora 24 as well as share the experiences
> of all those who have been taking the small first steps in
> participating within the Test team.

In that way, we should be having multiple small small release parties:
Fedora QA, Fedora Infra, Fedora Cloud, Fedora Docs, etc. and what not.
I am not sure if it's best to have community events in such a segregated
fashion.


> You'll notice that the agenda is very barebones - that is a request I
> had put forward. Instead of attempting to cover a lot of ground, often
> unfamiliar, focusing on sharing of experiences and learning.
>

>> There were no discussions or planning about this event with Fedora
>> Ambassadors from Bangalore: me and Aditya, AFAIK. All of a sudden, you
>> see an announcement for the event. It's good that some one wants to do
>> a Fedora Release Party, but, a planning without involving the local
>> community members and contributors is not proper.
>>

> I agree. There's nothing which states there has to be only one release
> party at a city. The Ambassadors, who have been long-term participants
> and highly visible are exceptionally adept at pulling together a
> larger event of greater depth.

If we once start doing things like this, individually, without proper
involvement of and discussions with the community, this will encourage
any other guy in the future to conduct his own Fedora event at his/her
whim, which might be misleading from a community point of view. We had
similar experiences in the past where people had even said things like
“Fedora is owned by Red Hat”. We’re just cautious that we don’t end up
communicating any such wrong notions in the future.

My understanding of community is more of collaboration and doing
things together, rather than doing things individually. There is
nothing wrong in doing an internal only event in Red Hat office, but
it should not have been pushed to the India list as a Fedora 24
release party in Bangalore (while cc'ing internal mailing list).


Thanks,
rtnpro
-- 
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