----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lalatendu Mohanty" <lmoha...@redhat.com> > To: india@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 12:05:34 PM > Subject: [fedora-india] Re: [Call for Action] Fedora 24 Release party BLR - > RSVP required > > On 06/29/2016 01:59 PM, sankarshan wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Ratnadeep Debnath <rtn...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 7:12 PM, sankarshan <foss.mailingli...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Ratnadeep Debnath <rtn...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Kushal Das <kushal...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> On 28/06/16, Sumantro Mukherjee wrote: > >>>>>> I am delighted to announce the Fedora 24 release party which is > >>>>>> happening in Red Hat,Bangalore office on Sunday 3rd of July from > >>>>>> 11:00am to 2:00pm. Needless to mention that's open to all and we will > >>>>>> be discussing about some of the new features and the goodness which > >>>>>> you can expect from Fedora 24. We will also talk about how you can > >>>>>> participate in making Fedora better by contributing to different > >>>>>> projects. We would like to know the amount of people who are willing > >>>>>> to come up and hence giving us a reply to this email with RSPV might > >>>>>> help us anticipate the number of attendees. > >>>>> Just wondering if you have talked with the local ambassadors first, who > >>>>> organize regular Fedora Bangalore events? I can not see any planning > >>>>> discussion, just a direct announcement. > >>> I'm not sure if a conversation with me counts. In continuance of the > >>> small bits of work Sumantro is putting together, I had requested him > >>> to check if there is a possibility of putting together a small party > >>> to celebrate the release of Fedora 24 as well as share the experiences > >>> of all those who have been taking the small first steps in > >>> participating within the Test team. > >> In that way, we should be having multiple small small release parties: > >> Fedora QA, Fedora Infra, Fedora Cloud, Fedora Docs, etc. and what not. > >> I am not sure if it's best to have community events in such a segregated > >> fashion. > >> > > Actually that's not a bad idea at all. The nature of a large/broad > > based event often obfuscates the fact that there the project itself is > > made up of smaller collectives. > > > > A "community" (and we have used that word in abundance in this > > conversation) is really a group of individuals who have a form of > > shared interests and goals. So, if a group of individuals who have > > taken a few first steps in learning how to make their first > > contributions to a Fedora (sub)project decide it would be nice to > > celebrate a release they were participating in - what is the exact > > nature of the concern that we are trying to discuss? > > > >>> You'll notice that the agenda is very barebones - that is a request I > >>> had put forward. Instead of attempting to cover a lot of ground, often > >>> unfamiliar, focusing on sharing of experiences and learning. > >>> > >>>> There were no discussions or planning about this event with Fedora > >>>> Ambassadors from Bangalore: me and Aditya, AFAIK. All of a sudden, you > >>>> see an announcement for the event. It's good that some one wants to do > >>>> a Fedora Release Party, but, a planning without involving the local > >>>> community members and contributors is not proper. > >>>> > >>> I agree. There's nothing which states there has to be only one release > >>> party at a city. The Ambassadors, who have been long-term participants > >>> and highly visible are exceptionally adept at pulling together a > >>> larger event of greater depth. > >> If we once start doing things like this, individually, without proper > >> involvement of and discussions with the community, this will encourage > >> any other guy in the future to conduct his own Fedora event at his/her > >> whim, which might be misleading from a community point of view. We had > >> similar experiences in the past where people had even said things like > >> “Fedora is owned by Red Hat”. We’re just cautious that we don’t end up > >> communicating any such wrong notions in the future. > >> > > I am going to re-hash what I mentioned at the Pune FUDCon - we do need > > to get off this notion of only the blessed can organize Fedora events. > > The centralized model failed us at the very point we lacked ownership. > > Trying a de-centralized approach could be a good step forward. > > I do not see asking existing Fedora contributors if they are interested > to co-organize a Fedora event is a centralized model. I dislike events > likes this where the original organizer never asks existing organizers > or contributors. IMO It is discouraging for people like me. > > Also giving participants less than one week to respond is a bad idea. > This is the first release party in Bangalore I have missed in last > couple of years because of this. > > > > > > Let's cut to the chase - what is the worst that can happen? We'll have > > a boat load of events which are springing up everywhere? What's the > > downside in that when contrasted with the fact that we haven't been > > having regular meetups both for Fedora and participating across other > > exciting communities (eg. k8s, adb etc)? > > > >> My understanding of community is more of collaboration and doing > >> things together, rather than doing things individually. There is > >> nothing wrong in doing an internal only event in Red Hat office, but > >> it should not have been pushed to the India list as a Fedora 24 > >> release party in Bangalore (while cc'ing internal mailing list). > > I think you are mixing up your knowledge of what comes to you as part > > of your day job and what has been publicly posted. And I'd like to > > understand why you think this call-for-action is not "doing things > > together".
Hey All, Here is the post event report of Fedora 24 Release Party[1]. It's also linked back to the wiki [2]. [1]http://sumantrom.blogspot.in/2016/07/fedora-24-release-party-post-event.html [2]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F24_Bangalore_India#Post_event_report Thanks Sumantro _______________________________________________ india mailing list india@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/india@lists.fedoraproject.org
