Okay...got it...thanks Vivek. But how does this idea of cf differ from the subspecies concept?? Some subspecies may also be morphologically similar...and they can interbreed among themselves when possible.... Are these complex forms at their different stages of speciation?? You have mentioned that Hemidactylus cf brookii may actually comprise of several species.....but how much are they genetically related? please throw some light on this aspect...
Regards Shantanu. On Feb 25, 10:53 pm, vivek cyriac <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Shantanu > Cf basically means a complex form. Its refers to a group of closely related > distinct species which cannot be easily distinguised even by molecular > studies. Different species that are morphologically similar belong to such a > species complex. Species such as Hemidactylus cf brookii may actually > comprise of several species and in future may be separated into several new > species. > With regards > Vivek Philip Cyriac > > --- On Thu, 25/2/10, Shantanu <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Shantanu <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Hemidactylus species > To: "Indian Herps and Insects" <[email protected]> > Date: Thursday, 25 February, 2010, 8:11 PM > > Hi Vivek, > thanks a lot for the info on the range of Hemidactylus cf. > brooki.... > by the way, what does cf. stand for??...plz explain... > > Hi Zakir, > nice pic of Gecko (2nd post) > i think this individual resembles the one in the first image of > your previous post to a great extent.... > from that point of view, can we conclude that both the specimens are > Brook's Gecko(Hemidactylus cf. brooki)????...... : ) > > regards > Shantanu. > > On Feb 25, 1:09 pm, "Dr. Jahir Hussain" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Members > > Thank for the information. @shantanu- Hemidactylus brooki Gray,1845 is > > reported from Tamil Nadu also. Here with I’m attaching one more photo of > > Hemidactylus cf. brooki. > > Regards > > Jahir > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Shantanu <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Vivek and Melvin, > > > thanks a lot for your comments on the gecko pic... > > > but Brook's Gecko is found in northern India.....as suggested > > > by Mr.Indraneil Das in his snake book.... > > > and Zakir got this one from Chennai. > > > > regards > > > Shantanu... > > > > On Feb 24, 6:15 am, vivek cyriac <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The gecko is not a H.frenatus as it has the large tubercles. H.frenatus > > > doen not have such conspicuous large tubercles. Just by the pic its hard > > > to > > > tell the species. The Gecko might be a Hemidactylus cf brookii or a > > > H.maculatus > > > > With regards > > > > Vivek Philip Cyriac > > > > > --- On Tue, 23/2/10, Shantanu <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > From: Shantanu <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: Hemidactylus species > > > > To: "Indian Herps and Insects" <[email protected]> > > > > Date: Tuesday, 23 February, 2010, 11:41 PM > > > > > Hi Zakir, > > > > thats an Asian House Gecko (Hemidactylus frenatus) which is > > > > common in peninsular India. Nice images. > > > > > Habitat: It inhabits man-made structures as well as forested > > > > areas. > > > > > Call: The call consists of 4 to 5 loud staccato notes. > > > > > Diet: insects and spiders. > > > > > Range: widespread in southern India. and have been introduced > > > > in tropics and subtropics by huamn activities. > > > > > Eggs: 2 eggs laid. > > > > > regards > > > > Shantanu. > > > > > On Feb 23, 11:23 am, "Dr. Jahir Hussain" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Dear members > > > > > > Kindly identify the gecko species. Photo clinked near Chennai. > > > > > > regards > > > > > -- > > > > > Dr. K. Jahir Hussain PhD., > > > > > Visiting Scientist > > > > > Environment and Industrial Safety Section, > > > > > Indira Gandhi Centre for Atomic Research, > > > > > Department of Atomic Energy, > > > > > Kalpakkam- 603 102. > > > > > Ph: (M) 9840323432 > > > > > > Gecko705_DAE9840.JPG > > > > > 2218KViewDownload > > > > > > Gecko706_DAE9849.JPG > > > > > 820KViewDownload > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups > > > "Indian Herps and Insects" group. > > > > To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<indian-herps%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > > . > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > > groups.google.com/group/indian-herps?hl=en-GB. > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! > > > Homepage.http://in.yahoo.com/-Hidequoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Indian Herps and Insects" group. > > > To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<indian-herps%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/indian-herps?hl=en-GB. > > > -- > > Dr. K. Jahir Hussain PhD., > > Visiting Scientist > > Environment and Industrial Safety Section, > > Indira Gandhi Centre for Atomic Research, > > Department of Atomic Energy, > > Kalpakkam- 603 102. > > Ph: (M) 9840323432 > > > Hemidactylus brooki.JPG > > 1125KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Indian Herps and Insects" group. > To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/indian-herps?hl=en-GB. > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! > Homepage.http://in.yahoo.com/- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Indian Herps and Insects" group. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indian-herps?hl=en-GB.
