John Plocher wrote:
>>>> Putting /usr/gnu at the head of PATH causes incompatibilities
>>>>
>>> Failure to put /usr/gnu at the head of PATH will cause
>>>
>
> I'm not at all sure that this change would actually affect me - or most
> of y'all either.
>
I think there is something being missed here. While most current Solaris
developers may have their dotfiles customized how they like them, aren't
we still talking about developers who write code for Solaris?
As an application developer, no matter how I setup my environment, I do
have to be aware of and work with (or avoid) the environment that my
users are likely to have when my software runs. Granted I should be able
to code the app to work in any environment, but conrner cases exist, and
a change like this runs the risk of alienating developers we already
have. While they may be changes those developers should make anyway,
noone is going to like to be forced to update everything because the OS
made a major change like this.
Also, Some arguments are about the env users will see, and other times I
see people tlaking aobut how 'configure' needs to work out of the box,
so that other free software will build easily.
For interactive use, I can't see why a flexible mechanism can't be
created to allow the user to choose.
For the 'configure' case, I would think energy would be much better
spent submitting patches to autoconf, automake, libtool, etc. so that
configure and pals will do the right thing on solaris *without* turning
Solaris into GNU/Linux. Engineering wise that also seems to be the more
'right' solution.
-Kyle
> Since our target growth "market" for OpenSolaris is users of linux systems
> where gnutools are the defacto standard, then it seems clear that *they*
> certainly won't care about being "incompatible with old Solaris or POSIX".
> They are the ones who would find not having tar->gtar to be a bug.
>
> The only people who will care are the old Solaris users who haven't yet
> figured out how to set PATH= in their shell scripts and/or don't have
> their own .profile/.login/.bashrc/.cshrc scripts.
>
> Since I have my own .startup-scripts, and they explicitly set PATH,
> I won't even notice that this change has happened.
>
> [It would be nice if this choice was reflected in the new user
> account setup dialog instead of being hardcoded by the installer,
> but that is nit...]
>
> -John
>
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