On Nov 21, 2007, at 3:51 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: > >> Yes. I said this weeks ago, but again I believe an >> extraordinarily large portion of the project indiana iso downloads >> were installed into virtual machines. I believe that information >> should be tracked so that smart decisions for the project can be >> made in the future. If people are using the software in VMs, then >> the software should be tested in VMs. >> > Yes, makes sense to test for the most used platforms (virtual or > not) but... >> Most virtual machine software is free, and the technology makes >> running a new operating system as easy as opening a document. I >> think you'll find (once you start tracking usage) that running an >> OS such as Project Indiana in a VM is the rule, not the >> exception. It needs to be developed to accommodate this. >> >> > Maybe people run it in a VM as it's not usable enough to dual-boot ? > I like running Indiana inside a VM since I typically work on a laptop and don't want to destroy my work environment to try new distros. There are also a lot of other advantages like being able to snapshot running instances (I know ZFS can snapshot, but a VMWare snapshot restores much quicker when trying to deal with the whole OS state). Running it on bare-metal doesn't buy me anything since I'm not concerned with measuring performance. About 3/4 of the developers and consultants I know uses VMWare on their laptop or desktop when trying new OSes or as part of their development or testing process (some of the people run Windows or Linux laptops/desktops but manage or deploy to other OSes).
> Also, it is "as easy as opening a document"if you have the latest and > greatest hardware. How am I to compare the performance of OpenSolaris > if I just use a VM ? If measuring performance is your main goal then I agree you aren't the likely target audience for running it under VMWare or equivalents. >>> Anyone know if the VMware tools are >>> redistributable? >>> Yes, the VMWare tools are re-distributable as long as they are included inside a VMWare image., See http://www.vmware.com/download/eula/tools_policy.html for details. ..."You may distribute VMware Tools to third parties in object code format only and solely in conjunction with, and as part of, any Virtual Machine you create with the Software or with any update for any such Virtual Machine"... There is information and best practices on building VMWare images available at: http://www.vmware.com/appliances/build/how.html >> >> I think vmwaretools is very much not redistributable, but you >> should still talk to vmware about it. Eventually the latest >> vmware version should be packaged with the latest vmware tools >> version which should include an opensolaris version made with the >> ips package format... so maybe you could start them down that road >> now. >> -- >> >> This message posted from opensolaris.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> indiana-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss >> > > _______________________________________________ > indiana-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss _______________________________________________ indiana-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss
