> Hi Wayne,
> 
>     Could you pl update the wiki at 
> ://wikis.sun.com/display/g11n/OpenSolaris+i18n-l10n+pr
> oject+ideas
> with this and possible other inputs you have about
> future G11N projects 
> which can help to take OpenSolaris
> to the next level ?
> 
> Given the schedule for 2008.11 and current Live CD
> space situation, we 
> may have to consider your proposal
> (which will be discussed further to make a decision)
> of putting SCIM to 
> Live CD for 2009.04 release.
> 
> Regards,
> Suresh
> 

Hi suresh,

Thanks for putting together such an ambitious and apparently comprehensive 
plan.  I agree with you that OpenSolaris has the right infrastructure to become 
"simply the best global operating system" (quoting your own words).  Actually 
this is one of main reasons that I am spending so much time on it.

Many many years ago I had a long conversation with General Alexis Lum, a 
retired major general who serves as executive assistant to Senator Daniel 
Inouye.  Senator Inouye is the chairman of the Committee on Commerce, Science, 
and Transportation in the US Senate.

General Lum told me that when our troops are stationed overseas, they still use 
the English version of Microsoft Windows.  The costs to purchase localized 
version of Windows and its associated software can be prohibitive even for 
someone like myself--plus you need a separate machine to run a different 
Windows locale.  As a result, our troops and their families are effectively cut 
off from the local community.  He commented that it would be very helpful to 
our troops and their families if someone can develop a "global operating 
system".

I don't think anyone is interested in hearing what happened after that.  But in 
short, I believe OpenSolaris is our last hope.  Will it take us to where many 
Linux distros can't?  I think we have a good chance.  Of course, many will 
think that I am nuts.

Regarding whether SCIM should replace IIIMF in the 2008.11 LiveCD, I think this 
is a no-brainer.  In the past, I had been very critical of the fact that Sun's 
Beijing employees don't use OpenSolaris outside their jobs.  However, it never 
occurred to me that my criticism was very unfair b/c, as I just happened to 
realize, even I don't use it when I do Chinese (I always booted into SuSE).  
AFAIC, it is probably fair to conclude that no respectable Chinese will use 
OpenSoalris if IIIMF is the only input option.

Understandably, one can always use the GUI tool to install the SCIM packages.  
But for the most majority (especially for new comers whom we are desperately 
trying to attract), if an application is not in the LiveCD, then it's not there.

But we must also realize that the input method is not just for Chinese users.  
I have no way of finding out how others feel about losing IIIMF.  I don't think 
we will ever find out the answer before the packaging deadline.

I am thinking of another alternative, which is to package the zh locale in a 
separate LiveCD.  I know we all hate forking.  But there is a special 
rationale.  Chinese characters are represented by glyphs, and a workable set of 
Chinese font family typically comprises twenty to thirty thousand or even more 
characters (& we are talking about tens of millions of bytes per each font 
family).  It will be very desirable--and appealing--to include a good number of 
font families in the distro.  But doing so will be very unfair to non-Chinese 
speakers.

I remember twenty or so years ago, Microsoft was able to induce a massive 
migration of DOS users to Windows (3.0) using a very smart gimmick--a free 
glitzy game called Solitaire.  I was thinking perhaps we can pull a similar 
trick by including a good collection of eye-popping (& open-sourced) Chinese 
fonts. :-)
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