* In short understood from article that it is not a business of Islam whether one deal with secularism, socialism, democracy as well Islam doesn't have its own role to play in these field against the existing paganism!!!???
So we shouldn't demand and propagate Islamic criminal and civil laws in India. So close our mouth shut our eye and obey the political master to ensure social security under secular democratic parties (Since it is not the business of Islam nobody going to ask you even in Qiyamath day also) We need to bother only about thouheed in spirituality and aradana! Whether it is perfect or not…. If one blessed to have a chance in reading glorious Islamic history then he should understand from the following incidents that: 1. Who fought and martyred in Karbala were died for their Duniya purpose! (Not to secure Islamic political system?) 2. Abdullah ibn Zubair in Makka who fought and martyred then crossed by Hajjaj bin Yousuf was just do a foolish act for his Duniya interest! (Not to secure Islamic political system even in Islamic birth place?) 3. Ali (RA) who fought against Muaviya (RA) was just for his Duniy greed. He was not using his power to secure Islamic political system from diverting to the wrong way which Islam reject? 4. At the time of death Omar (RA) advised his people to choose their next Khaleefa who suggested by five or the majority of these five (these five were from the 10 among who going to enter Janna first) and to kill who stay against the opinion of the majority. Is this to secure Islamic political system or aradan system? How horrible to allow killing of such great Sahaba who glad tided by Janna!!!!??? * ** On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:16 PM, avmuneer <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 2/4/09, pmjaleel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> AS MR. HASSAINAR POINTED OUT, IT WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED IF THE >> GENTLEMEN COULD HELP US TO LEARN THE REAL VIEW POINT OF ISLAM ABOUT >> DEMOCRACY AND ITS FUNDAMENTAL CONCEPTS. HOPE OTHERS ALSO AGREE >> >> >> >> WE ARE EAGER TO LEARN ABOUT THIS >> >> >> >> REGARDS >> >> >> >> ABDUL JALEEL >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Hassainar Poylil >> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:50 PM >> *To:* MISHAL MUNEER MISHAL; Anwar Aboobacker >> *Cc:* Moideen kutty >> *Subject:* {IIG} Shaik Anwar Moulavi - Let educate us how Muslim respond >> with democracy and secularism >> >> >> >> *Dear Shaik Anwar Aboobacker Moulavi* >> >> *You don a great job by educating people under the subject "JIkku Ettavum >> Mechappettathu Janaadhipathyamo". It seems you are spending your almost >> effort to disclose how danger who talk against democracy and secularism, >> that what Moudoodi did in his small book you quoted in your mail. I believe >> it was an academic though based on Islamic knowledge he learn. * >> >> >> >> *Since majority in the world has freedom to reject his point of view and >> entertain the freedom of democracy and secularism in our materialistic world >> as we do, hope you among that majority will explain about the Islamic view >> point regard democracy and Secularism.* >> >> >> >> *It will be great a job showing our honest in criticising what others >> done where the majority in dark age which compel work them behind secular >> parties in India.* >> >> *So excepting what Islam say about Democracy and Secularism and how one >> Muslim response with these two hottest issue.* >> >> >> >> *Dear Moideen Kutty and Mishal Muneer Mishal* >> >> *Awaiting your input also because you showed much interest in this >> subject* >> >> *Yours Brother* >> >> *Hasainar P* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:13 PM, moideen kutty <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> --- On *Mon, 2/2/09, MISHAL MUNEER MISHAL <[email protected]>*wrote: >> >> From: MISHAL MUNEER MISHAL <[email protected]> >> Subject: {IIG} Reply >> To: "islahi" <[email protected]> >> Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 7:45 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> Assalamu Alaikkum, >> >> Attach >> >> <br >> >> >> >> > > > __._,_.___ > Messages in this topic > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MUSLIM-UMMA/message/6722;_ylc=X3oDMTM1MGExOWNoBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNDU5NTI5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA3NjE3OQRtc2dJZAM2NzIyBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTIzNDAwOTYzNQR0cGNJZAM2NzIy> > (1) Reply (via web post) > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MUSLIM-UMMA/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxdGl2YW83BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNDU5NTI5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA3NjE3OQRtc2dJZAM2NzIyBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTIzNDAwOTYzNQ--?act=reply&messageNum=6722>| > Start a new topic > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MUSLIM-UMMA/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmOHR1ZGNwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNDU5NTI5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA3NjE3OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyMzQwMDk2MzU-> > Messages<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MUSLIM-UMMA/messages;_ylc=X3oDMTJmYzBrZG9hBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwNDU5NTI5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA3NjE3OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNtc2dzBHN0aW1lAzEyMzQwMDk2MzU-> > MARKETPLACE > ------------------------------ > From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods > <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=13r2pu62b/M=493064.12016295.13271503.10835568/D=groups/S=1705076179:MKP1/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1234016835/L=/B=ZTQ8UkPDhFM-/J=1234009635905705/A=5530388/R=0/SIG=11nuutlas/*http://explore.yahoo.com/groups/kraftmealsmadesimple/> > [image: Yahoo! > Groups]<http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlZ2hvamV0BF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzIwNDU5NTI5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA3NjE3OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTIzNDAwOTYzNQ--> > Change settings via the > Web<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MUSLIM-UMMA/join;_ylc=X3oDMTJnM2tjcWNnBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzIwNDU5NTI5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA3NjE3OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNzdG5ncwRzdGltZQMxMjM0MDA5NjM1>(Yahoo! > ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily > Digest<[email protected]?subject=email+delivery:+Digest>| > Switch > format to > Traditional<[email protected]?subject=change+delivery+format:+Traditional> > Visit Your Group > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MUSLIM-UMMA;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbjJic2puBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzIwNDU5NTI5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA3NjE3OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNocGYEc3RpbWUDMTIzNDAwOTYzNQ-->| > Yahoo! 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