Dhirenji! Let us agree to disagree. Best wishes, akbhatt On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:45 PM, DHIREN PANIA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anandji, > Hallo., > > Banana can not be treated as Kalpavruksha, Besides banana, is tropical > fruit mainly growing along SE Asia. "Jambudweep" includes SE Asian > countries, > > My list is concern it *not my theory* nor my creation. But, information > collected from various religious books & research papers. following are some > uses of Palas & guler.which may interest you. > > *Palas*-- its flowers are used in Holi for natural colour,for dying of > clothes. In summer Indian Princess & Queens from Central & Western India > were using it for bath.Today also in Ayurveda bath of Palas flowers > recommended for reducing heat from body. Besides flowers , Leaves are used > as packet for pan and flowers.In MP & UP one get dish of Palsh leaves for > eating. The extract of Palas is useful in many disorders. > White flowers - Palas called B.monosperma which is rare and grow only in > MP is astrologically important. > > Guler /Fig--its from deciduous forest,Its fruits are used as dry fruits, > which has richest cooper magnesium,potassium,its used as laxatives & > antioxidants.In Greek,Islamic & Christianity its being sighted as > forbidden fruit. Many reference are their for its medicinal & other uses. > > Besides these five trees what I have mentioned are common in our Central > India, Western & Southern forest. My saying was more of scientific. Besides, > u can ask any Ayurvedic Dr, for their uses and u will come to know. > > Regards > Dhiren Pania > > > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Anand Kumar Bhatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Dhirenji: >> My context was entirely different. It was suggested that coconut and >> banana are also Kalpavriksha and should be recognised as such. I replied >> that for coconut I agree, but for banana agree only partially. Then I >> wondered whether there is any reason behind the trees mentioned as >> Kalpavriksha in the Puranas and other sources all belonging to northern part >> of the country. Then I conjectured that maybe it is due to the Aryans >> initially come to northern part of 'Jumbudweep' . It is only an academic >> discussion with absolutely no other overtone. >> >> So far as your list is concerned, What one would like to know is whether >> you have sourced it from somewhere or it is only your personal opinion. If >> latter be the case, I dont agree with the inclusion of Palash and gullar >> trees. I don't know how all their parts are useful to men. >> akbhatt >> On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 8:39 PM, DHIREN PANIA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> >>> Hallo Anandji, >>> >>> Its not like that Trees from Western & Southern parts are also called >>> as "Kalpavruksha". >>> Basically, Kalpavruksha is tree/s are tree which fulfill all needs of >>> human being with respect to food, shelter & medicine. >>> >>> And I feel depending upon geographical region you will find many >>> regional Kalpavruksha trees. Their reference can be find in our Vedas & >>> Purana's and great epics. And also one find these trees in each & every >>> villages, around ashrams of many rushimuni schools. >>> >>> Such Kalpavruksha Trees were also commonly popular with Tribal people. As >>> these trees fulfill their need, as & when required. >>> >>> For eg. five trees -- three ficus trees, one fruit bearing tree and one >>> Medicinal property tree. which grows all over India called also >>> "Kalpavruksha" trees and they are--- >>> >>> VAD ( BANYAN, *Ficus Bengalnensis*), >>> PEEPAL (*Ficus religiousa*), >>> UMBER (*Ficus glomerata*), >>> PALAS ( Guj:Kesudo,Kesu/ *Butea frondosa*) and >>> MANGO (Hindi:-Aam, *Mangifera indica*) >>> >>> are worshiped as Kalpavruksha trees because of their multidisciplinary >>> usefulness. >>> >>> Some one can correct me if I am wrong or can through some more light on >>> these subject. >>> >>> Regards >>> dhiren pania >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Anand Kumar Bhatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> > I fully agree with you about the virtues of coconut tree, and partially >>> > about banana. The only remark that I want to make in this regard is >>> that all >>> > these trees which have been mentioned as Kalpavriksha are mainly north >>> > Indian trees, and not from the Southern part of India. Does it say >>> anything >>> > about the so-called Aryan civilisation being of the nothern part of >>> the >>> > country? >>> > Best wishes, >>> > akbhatt >>> > >>> > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:53 AM, J.M. Garg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Hi, Anand ji, >>> >> It's really interesting. >>> >> >>> >> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Anand Kumar Bhatt < >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Sometime back there was some discussion on Kalpavriksha, the >>> mythological >>> >>> wish-giving tree. I had heard about a book named Plant Myths and >>> traditions >>> >>> in india by Ms Shakti Sinha. Luckily somebody told me the name of the >>> >>> publisher and I could procure a copy. It is an interesting collection >>> of >>> >>> mythology and tribal folklore associated with so many trees. >>> Kalpavriksha >>> >>> has been variously associated with several trees according to various >>> >>> puranas, and mythological stories. These trees are : >>> >>> >>> >>> Parijata or Harshingar (Nyctannnthes arbor-tristis) >>> >>> Nyagarodha or Bargad….Banyan (Ficus Benghalensis) >>> >>> Kadamba (Neolamarckia cadamba). Or is it Kaim (Mitragyna parviflora) >>> >>> which is claimed by many to be the real Krishna Kadamba >>> >>> Mandara …Indian Coral tree (Erythrina variegata) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Both Parijata and Mandara came out of the churning of Ocean of Milk >>> >>> (Kshirsagar) with Sumeru mountain as the churner, snake Vasuki as the >>> rope, >>> >>> and Vishnu as the pivot for the churner in his Kachchap (turtle) >>> avatar. The >>> >>> objective of the churn was to procure amrita, the drink of >>> immorality. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Parijata is the heavenly tree which symbolizes mind. One's desire is >>> >>> fulfilled if asked for sitting in its shade according to the >>> mythology. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Mandara also came out of the churning. Both were planted in Nandan >>> Kanan, >>> >>> the garden of Indra. Parijata was taken away by Krishna for his wife >>> >>> Satyabhama. Later Mandara was desired by Rukmini and Krishna took >>> that away >>> >>> as well. Mandara tree is also considered holy because of the >>> trifoliate >>> >>> leaves signifying the trinity of gods, that is Brahma, Vishnu and >>> Mahesh. >>> >>> Bilvaptra or Belpatra is also arranged thus, and so is Butea >>> monosperma >>> >>> (Palash). A famous saying in Hindi is 'dhaak ke teen paat'. However, >>> mandara >>> >>> and bilvapatra are offered to Shiva only. And so far as palash is >>> concerned, >>> >>> I do not find any mythology associaated with it, except that its wood >>> can be >>> >>> used to make vessels tol store pujan articles and is also used as >>> >>> sacrificial fuel. Palash when in bloom is a lovely sight, and as it >>> flowers >>> >>> during the time of Holi, the festival of colours, water boiled and >>> cooled >>> >>> with palash flowers is used to throw colour at people. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Ficus Benghaalensis or Nyagrodhais also known as desire fulfilling >>> tree, >>> >>> and is supposed to give to the worshipper food and drink, clothes and >>> >>> ornaments, children and hold your breath, een beautiful maidens as >>> well. >>> >>> Wish I had known earlier! >>> >>> >>> >>> According to Bhagvad Purana kadamba is Kalpavriksha. Kadamba is >>> >>> association of awine which was used to entertain Balram, the >>> incarnation of >>> >>> Sheshnaag. However, Kadamba does not exude any juice, but its floeers >>> are >>> >>> distilled to make a spirit. Kadambari is another name for wine. The >>> trinity >>> >>> of exciting habits kadamb, kamini, kanchan, or sura, sundari, sangram >>> (wine, >>> >>> woman and war) is the material for many a mythological story. >>> >>> >>> >>> Parijata, Palash and Mandara are not preferred as garden plants >>> mainly >>> >>> because the trees are nothing much to look at. Banyan is a fine tree >>> but can >>> >>> be used only in large parks. Kadamba of course is a graceful tree, >>> but it >>> >>> likes humid and cool weather. Although now it has ben acclimatised >>> all over >>> >>> the country. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sorry if it was boring and didactic. >>> >>> akbhatt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Anand Kumar Bhatt >>> >>> A-59, B.S.F.Colony, Airport Road >>> >>> Gwalior. 474 005. >>> >>> >>> >>> For learning about our trees & plants, please visit/ join Google >>> e-group >>> >>> (Indiantreepix) http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en >>> >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Anand Kumar Bhatt >>> > A-59, B.S.F.Colony, Airport Road >>> > Gwalior. 474 005. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Anand Kumar Bhatt >> A-59, B.S.F.Colony, Airport Road >> Gwalior. 474 005. >> > > -- Anand Kumar Bhatt A-59, B.S.F.Colony, Airport Road Gwalior. 474 005. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "indiantreepix" group. 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