I think this is not Cyphostemma auriculata

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote:

> ... Rani ji, please let me know if the plant that I posted at the beginning
> of this thread *is* OR *is not* *Cyphostemma auriculatum*.
> (This plant found at Lion's Point, Lonavala on 18 JUN 09).
> For convenience, I am attaching the photos once again to this message.
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
>
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> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Rani Bhagat <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> ya its correct
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> :-) Thank you very much, Rani ji.
>>> Please let me know if I got names correctly: जंगली काजोर्णी, काळी वेल
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Rani Bhagat <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Cyphostemma auriculatum*
>>>> Syn. *Cissus auriculata* and
>>>> *Vitis auriculata*
>>>> Local Name -Jangali Kajorni, Kali vel
>>>>
>>>> It is from my own Book i.e. " Flora of Baramati" which I have recently
>>>> published.
>>>>
>>>>   On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Rani ji, I could not find much about this species on internet (and I
>>>>> have limited reference books).
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish to know following:
>>>>> ... synonyms: *Vitis auriculata* ? *Cissus auriculata *? *Cayratia
>>>>> auriculata* ?
>>>>> ... any common name(s): ?
>>>>> ... regions native to, OR distribution: ?
>>>>> ... any good reference (URL or some book): ?
>>>>>
>>>>> and any point which differentiates it from *C. elongata.*
>>>>> ... there is one Google Book reference Prodromus Floræ Peninsulæ Indiæ
>>>>> Orientalis<http://books.google.com/books?id=yRsYAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA129&lpg=PA129&dq=Vitis+auriculata&source=bl&ots=xGUrCKpLBG&sig=bHkbKVEW11z-s6rdCyn-4VF_s-A&hl=en&ei=1jdbSvj6JI2U6wOo092VCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10>which
>>>>>  discusses both these species (
>>>>> *Cyphostemma auriculata* and *Cissus elongata* ) and they seem very
>>>>> close.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, and many many thanks for this ID !!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Rani Bhagat <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ya it is Cyphostemma auriculata only
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Dinesh Valke <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rani ji, I am attaching cropped photos ... please let me know if
>>>>>>> auricles that you mentioned are found here.
>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Dinesh Valke <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK Rani ji, I will be back ... once I find out yes / no of auricle.
>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Rani Bhagat <[email protected]
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If their is auricle at the base of petiole then it is Cyphostemma
>>>>>>>>> auriculata-Vitaceae Pls. check
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Dinesh Valke <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Prashant and Garg ji, by now, I am believing the plant I posted to
>>>>>>>>>> be *C. elongata *... many thanks for your thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>> Not much popular on internet or reference books, yet one
>>>>>>>>>> characteristic feature is the palmate leaf ... that is what I could 
>>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>>> from whatever articles I read on WWW.
>>>>>>>>>> The nearest *Cissus* would be *C. pedata* which has lobed leaf
>>>>>>>>>> with deep sinuses.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday, I chanced upon *C. elongata* once again (a photo
>>>>>>>>>> attached) at Ghodbunder side of Sanjay Gandhi National Park ... but 
>>>>>>>>>> this one
>>>>>>>>>> has its leaflets' shape different and nearly matches the 
>>>>>>>>>> illustration at
>>>>>>>>>> eFlora (of China) ...
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=93827&flora_id=2
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For more views:
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/search/?s=int&w=91314...@n00&q=Cissus+elongata&m=text
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Prashant awale <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Dinesh,
>>>>>>>>>>> I too feel that this could be Cissus elongta. Do have a look at
>>>>>>>>>>> following illustration..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=93827&flora_id=2
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> best wishes
>>>>>>>>>>> Prashant..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Dinesh Valke <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Garg ji, many thanks for validating it to be *Cissus* ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting for *Cissus*-familiar friends to point out the species.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just in case some description would be of help -- it is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> herbaceous creeper, spreading rather laterally, most of them that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I saw were
>>>>>>>>>>>> about 2 metres long (or less), the palmate (penta-) leaves 
>>>>>>>>>>>> far-spaced, the
>>>>>>>>>>>> flowers growing opposite to leaves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:04 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hi, Dinesh ji,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flowers look similar in structure & shape with those of *Cissus
>>>>>>>>>>>>> woodrowii* (Woodrow's Grape Tree) as per my attachment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It may be *Cissus elongata* as per illustrations (I have not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> checked further details) at links:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tai2.ntu.edu.tw/udth/bin/taiwania.exe/dl?id=372 &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=93827&flora_id=2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> & as per details at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=107146
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/6/20 Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Hello friends ... please let me know whether it is a *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cissus*.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Dinesh Valke <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello friends,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would this be *Cissus elongata* ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Place: near Lion's Point, Lonavala
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 18 JUN 09
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Image Resource of thousands of my images of Birds, Butterflies,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flora etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise):
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For learning about Indian Flora, visit/ join Google e-group-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indiantreepix:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Say yes to yes and no to no
>>>>>>>>> Rani Bhagat
>>>>>>>>> Agharkar Research Institute
>>>>>>>>> G.G.Agarkar Rd.
>>>>>>>>> Pune 4 Maharashtra India
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Say yes to yes and no to no
>>>>>> Rani Bhagat
>>>>>> Agharkar Research Institute
>>>>>> G.G.Agarkar Rd.
>>>>>> Pune 4 Maharashtra India
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Say yes to yes and no to no
>>>> Rani Bhagat
>>>> Agharkar Research Institute
>>>> G.G.Agarkar Rd.
>>>> Pune 4 Maharashtra India
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Say yes to yes and no to no
>> Rani Bhagat
>> Agharkar Research Institute
>> G.G.Agarkar Rd.
>> Pune 4 Maharashtra India
>>
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Say yes to yes and no to no
Rani Bhagat
Agharkar Research Institute
G.G.Agarkar Rd.
Pune 4 Maharashtra India

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