Thanks to Gurcharan ji for pointing out the problem with the Ottelia
identification which precipitated this stimulating discussion, and the
solution in the end. I agree that the group now has a good number of
members, especially some with a more learned background, which is
helping in keeping our databases error-free. An excellent example of
community effort!
Best wishes
- Tabish
On Aug 26, 2:34 pm, "Gurcharan Singh" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks prashant ji, for ultimately solving the mystery, also establishing
> that our doubts about Ottelia were not unfounded. Fortunately our group has
> good number of members with critical eye, and the mistake is not easily
> passed on.
>
> Gurcharan Singh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Prashant awale
> To: Gurcharan Singh
> Cc: rashida atthar ; [email protected] ; [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:16783] Re: Request For water plant ID-180808
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> Thanks for the lead. This could be Echinodorus palaefolius.
>
> Here is the link from toptropicals..
> http://toptropicals.com/html/toptropicals/catalog/photo_db/E.htm?NumP...
>
> Thanks & best wishes
> Prashant
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Rashida ji
> It would help if you could give links to websites featuring Ottelia
> ovalifolia photographs.
>
> Gurcharan Singh
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rashida atthar
> To: [email protected] ; [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:07 PM
> Subject: [indiantreepix:16776] Re: Request For water plant ID-180808
>
> Tabish ji thank you for the explanation. I have to inform you that
> Jeejamata Udyan and Rani baug are one and the same place! There is a small
> Japanese garden within Rani baug ( Jeejamata udyan) where this pic is taken.
> So it is the same species. Several sites on the web too match the
> characteristics of the pic with Ottelia ovalifolia. Awaiting Rani ji's
> response to clarify the same.
>
> regards,
> Rashida.
>
> > Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:14:54 -0700
> > Subject: [indiantreepix:16775] Re: Request For water plant ID-180808
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
>
> > Dear Gurcharan,
> > Thanks for pointing out this feature of Ottelia. Indeed, it now
> > appears that the picture on the FOI link
> >http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Swamp%20Lily.html
> > is not Ottelia ovalifolia, in all likelihood. The leaves seemed to
> > agree quite well with Ottelia ovalifolia, and so did the 3-petalled
> > flowers.
> > Rashida's plant and the plant at Flowers of India (FOI) are mostly
> > likely the same species. The inflorescence does look like that of
> > Sagittaria species. However, I am unable to find any matching
> > Sagittaria species, as of now. The leaves of Sagittaria guayanensis
> > are very different from those seen here. As Rashida mentioned,
> > Sagittarai rigida came the closest, but not quite.
> > Rashida's plant was seen at a Japanese garden in Mumbai, while the
> > plant at FOI was photographed at Jeejamata Udyan, Mumbai. So, it is
> > quite likely that it is some exotic species, which may not be reported
> > from India. I only hope that we wouldn't have to explore another
> > genus.
> > Best wishes
> > - Tabish
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> >http://www.flowersofindia.net
> > The Waterhole of Flower Lovers
>
> > On Aug 25, 8:14 pm, "Gurcharan Singh" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Rashida ji
> > > The lead given by Rani ji was valid. Ottelia has solitary flowers.
> The identification at Flowers of India website is probably misplaced.
> Sagittaria has flowers in several distant clusters, and free carpels as seen
> in your photograph. Your plant could be most probably Sagittaria guayanensis,
> reported from India and Pakistan..
>
> > > Gurcharan Singh
>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: rashida atthar
> > > To: [email protected]
>
> > > Cc: [email protected] ; [email protected]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:56 PM
> > > Subject: [indiantreepix:16754] Re: Request For water plant
> ID-180808
>
> > > Thank you Rani ji for a further lead. I checked again on flowers
> of India and the web. My pic seems to match completely with Ottelia
> ovalifolia. There are about 20 species of Sagittaria, I feel the closest is
> Sagittarai rigida to my pic. I request your feedback for the same please.
> Thank you.
>
> > > regards,
> > > Rashida.
>
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:37:23 +0530
> > > Subject: [indiantreepix:16663] Re: Request For water plant
> ID-180808
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > CC: [email protected]; [email protected]
>
> > > Check for Sagittaria
>
> > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:09 AM, rashida atthar
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Thank you Garg ji for the ID and the link.
>
> > > regards,
> > > Rashida.
>
> > >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:58:03 +0530
> > > Subject: [indiantreepix:16598] Re: Request For water plant
> ID-180808
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > CC: [email protected]
>
> > > Hi, Rashida ji,
> > > I think Ottelia ovalifolia (Swamp Lily) as per link:
> > >
> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Swamp%20Lily.html(FOI).
>
> > > 2009/8/23 rashida atthar <[email protected]>
>
> > > This water plant was seen in a small Japanese garden within
> Rani Baug, Mumbai on 18 August '09. Request ID for the same please. Thank you.
>
> > > regards,
> > > Rashida.
>
> > >
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