Thanks Gurcharan ji
For some different aspect of the discussion. I enjoyed that one.
Satish Phadke

2009/9/19 singhg . <[email protected]>

>
>
> On 9/19/09, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Neil ji, I am convinced it has to be Wedelia urticifolia ... thank you
>> very much for the ID.
>> Many thanks to Stephen and Singh ji for setting the name right.
>>
>> Would like to extend this thread by another query:
>> Do the flower, leaf in Pravin ji's photo look different ?
>>
>> I see the leaf is coarse dentate than fine serrate, the flower centre does
>> not seem to be of *Wedelia *(my view).
>> The calices and stalks of our flowers, they too look different.
>>
>> I have attached more photos for comparison.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Many thanks, Neil ji ... I am sure Ingalhalikar ji must have taken note
>>> of this errata.
>>>
>>> Dear friends, my ID query remains at Neil ji suggesting it to be Wedelia
>>> urticifolia.
>>> I need validation because I see *W. urticifolia* different at FOI --
>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Nettle%20Leaved%20Wedelia.html
>>>
>>> Dear Tabish, your thoughts on this query.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Neil Soares <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Hi Dinesh,
>>>>   In Dr. Almeida's 'Flora of Maharashtra' it is also listed as Wedelia
>>>> urticifolia. Wadelia urticaefolia is how it is spelt in Ingalhalikar's
>>>> 'Flowers of the Sahayadris'.
>>>>                           Regards,
>>>>                             Neil.
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Fri, 9/18/09, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>* wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:18675] Re: ... Wedelia-like aster
>>>> To: "singhg ." <[email protected]>
>>>> Cc: "Stephen A" <[email protected]>, "Pravin Kawale" <
>>>> [email protected]>, "Neil Soares" <[email protected]>,
>>>> "Indian Tree Pix" <[email protected]>, "rashida atthar" <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 12:24 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Many thanks Singh ji, Stephan ji, for the clarity on the acceptance of
>>>> names.
>>>>
>>>> Yet, the ID pends ... *Wedelia urticifolia* is suggested by Neil ji,
>>>> comments and validations welcome.
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:09 PM, singhg . 
>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Dinesh Valke <
>>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   ... was apprehensive of "Wadelia" being "Wedelia", however I think
>>>>>> "urticaefolia" could be an accepted spelling - especially if the epithet 
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> created when old English was in practice.
>>>>>> I also see this spelling used by many known sites (but this is not
>>>>>> valid reasoning).
>>>>>> This is only my thought ... not based on any concrete study. Stephen,
>>>>>> please correct me if it has got to be only *urticifolia*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Stephen A <
>>>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hi all,
>>>>>>> There is no genus or accepted Wadelia in the Family Asteraceae.
>>>>>>> Its mere a typo error.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The correct name and spelling is *Wedelia* *urticifolia* DC.Asteraceae
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stephen...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Pravin Kawale <
>>>>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Hi,
>>>>>>>> wadelia urticaefolia
>>>>>>>> photographed at Bhimashankar
>>>>>>>> Aug,2007
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Dinesh Valke <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Neil ji, is this "Wadelia" a typo ? OR is it an accepted
>>>>>>>>> spelling for "Wedelia" ?
>>>>>>>>> I have a feeling it is was one-time typo that is getting
>>>>>>>>> circulated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would like to believe this to be *W. urticaefolia*, however it
>>>>>>>>> looks different at FOI --
>>>>>>>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Nettle%20Leaved%20Wedelia.html
>>>>>>>>> Moreover there are no pictorial references on Internet (I know,
>>>>>>>>> this is vague reasoning !!)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hope I get to see some photos from friends here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Neil Soares <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>       Hi Dinesh,
>>>>>>>>>>    It does look like Wadelia urticaefolia.
>>>>>>>>>>                  Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>                    Neil.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --- On *Thu, 9/17/09, Dinesh Valke 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> >* wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [indiantreepix:18607] ... Wedelia-like aster
>>>>>>>>>> To: "Indian Tree Pix" 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: "rashida atthar" 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 6:11 PM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>       Dear friends,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This herb growing gregariosly, standing erect, at about 1 m.
>>>>>>>>>> Place: Yeoor Hills (part of Sanjay Gandhi National Park)
>>>>>>>>>> Date: 13 SEP 09
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One of the photos, a long shot has different set of plants in
>>>>>>>>>> foreground, please note.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pravin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dinesh ji
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Although there are guidelines for naming plants, but ultimately the
>>>>>>>>> spellings given by the original author, even if not sounding 
>>>>>>>>> appropriate
>>>>>>>>> will stay.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is Wedelia urticifolia DC., and that is the correct one
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>>>>> Associate Professor
>>>>>>>>> Department of Botany
>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College
>>>>>>>>> University of Delhi
>>>>>>>>> Delhi-110007
>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj
>>>>>>>>>        Vikas Puri
>>>>>>>>>        New Delhi-110018
>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011025518297
>>>>>>>>> Mobile: 9810359089
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Dear Dinesh ji
>>
>
>   I admire you, Gargji, Tabishji, Neilji, and several others on the group
> with little or no knowlege botany, but still outdoing many botanists. I am
> simply amazed by your love for plants.
>
> Just to set records straight: what we are talking about is not flowers, but
> collection of flowers technically capitulum, but simply said a head. The
> green structures outside are not calyx but involucre bracts or phylaries;
> the stalk is peduncle.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Associate Professor, Department of Botany, SGTB Khalsa College
> University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018
> Phone: 011025518297; Mobile: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
> >
>


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