Rahida ji, "nigr" by itself is not a full word -- it is the root. nigra, nigro, &c forms the adjective (gender-based associated to the noun). Regards.
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:21 AM, rashida atthar <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Precisely Aparna my contention is why was pure Latin not used and in this > case retained as 'nigr' instead of adding 'o' and making it sound racial. > You may feel fine with it but I do feel uncomfortable. > > regars, > Rashida. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:25:56 +0530 > Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:19130] Re: Flemingia on Kaas again and again > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected]; [email protected] > > > The original word nigr- is latin and means black. There is nothing to feel > uncomfortable about use of a word which defines a colour. > The word which gained derogatory meaning is spelt "n-e-g-r-o" and cums from > the same latin route- nigr-/niger meaning black. Even that word was not > considered bad till some people started using it as racial slur in America > > Also in botany it is not Greek and Latin used- but only words which are > "latinised", (whether greek, sanskrit, marathi, swedish in origin) for > naming plants and pure latin for describing them. > aparna > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:30 PM, rashida atthar < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Thank you Satish ji for these wonderul pics of the leaves. I hope the > species you saw was the same as the one we saw. > > The dots appear like nigro- punctate - This is a very racial word, I feel > very uncomfortable using this term, surprising in Botany where mainly Greek > and Latin is used, that this term should find its way! > > regards, > Rashida. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:38:51 +0530 > Subject: [indiantreepix:19130] Re: Flemingia on Kaas again and again > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected] > > Important feedback prompted me to take a macro photo of the leaf of *Flemingia > *from Kas.(20Sep2009) > I didn't dare to uproot it as there were only few of these plants. I > request all to comment whether the small spots seen in the magnified picture > can be called as ....nigro punctate or not? I think newer technological > gadget may be useful here against the handheld lens with which I might not > have seen these. > Cheers > Dr Satish Phadke > > 2009/9/19 Aparna Watve <[email protected]> > > > Dear All, > Sometime back photo of Flemingia sp. on Kaas was circulated and I had > ided it as Flemingia nilgheriensis based on BSI flora key as it has > tuberous roots, which i have myself verified from that site as well as > from nearby plateaus in Mahabaleshwar. But later people wrote it as F. > gracilis and I did not contest it for lack of some references. > However, I have gone through my data and the recent book by Mishra and > Singh (2001) on Endemic and threatened flowering plants of Maharashtra > and I am strongly of opinion that it is Flemingia nilgheriensis > (Baker) Wight ex Cooke. > > Mishra and Singh mention differentiating characters > F. gracilis : as leaves nigro-punctate beneath > F. nilgheriensis: as not nigro-punctate beneath > Those visiting Kaas at present can verify this. However, I find the > character of tuberous roots much more dependable. The other localities > they have mentioned are Kalsubai, gothane, Kaas, Mahabaleshwar and > Phonda ghat. With the exception of Kalsubai, I have seen this plant in > all the other localities mentioned and areas adjacent to it and hence > feel certain that this plant is Flemingia nilgheriensis. Also knowing > Dipak K. Mishra's identification work, I tend to trust his opinion. > > I am unable to comment on F. gracilis, never having seen its material. > The only three localities mentioned by Mishra for it are Porcupine > point (Matheran), Khandala, Lonavla (Sakharpathar plateau- which on > way to Sahara amby valley project). and the original collection is by > Bell from 1918 from Castle Rock (Karnataka). Those visiting these > localities can try getting the material and identifying it again vs > that on the above localities. > > It would also be necessary to read up the original and subsequent > descriptions of both the species to search for more clues to confirm- > I again miss having access to the good libraries and literature. Maybe > those in ARI/BSI/BNHS can check up. > > To reiterate, with the present knowledge, my belief is that the kaas > Flemingia is F. nilgheriensis. > aparna > > > -- > Dr. Aparna Watve > > Asha Appt, Shanti Nagar, Ekata Colony > Nr. 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