Many thanks Vijayasankar ji and Raju ji for this discussion. Regards. Dinesh
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Vijayasankar <[email protected]>wrote: > Dear Raju sir, > > Thanks for the response. > Even though the botanical nomenclature of > Randia-Benkara-Canthium-Xeromphis-Tamilnadia-etc- group may be confusing > and keep changing, all (or many of) these plants are grouped by the local > people under the generic name 'Karai' or 'Kaarai' *(காரை) *in Tamil. > Different species have various descriptive prefixes such as 'Nalla karai' > (Canthium parviflorum), 'Madhu karai' (Randia dumetorum), 'Perungkarai' (R. > uliginosa), 'Maru karai' (R. longispina), 'Manakkarai' (Meyna laxiflora) > etc. Dr. Tirvengadum finally brought about clarity in this 'armed' group of > rubiaceous plants. He also visited FRLHT for studying herbarium collections > of this group. > > Panchavarnam <http://www.plantinfocentre.com/index.html>sir has taken up > an ambitious task of naming plants of Tamil Nadu that do not currently have > a Tamil name. I hope he agrees with the suggested Tamil name of Oxyceros > rugulosus. A quote from his website <http://www.panchavarnam.com/>"...Tamil > name is available only for 1260 plants out of 5676 plants. For remaining > plants the process of Tamil naming is going on...". > > I agree with your suggestion of listing eFI taxa in FBI sequence. Many of > us are in fact more comfortable with B & H system. But the modern > treatments follow APG III. > I understand Dr. Karthigeyan did extensive work in compilation of plants > of India. But I am not sure if the great work is published (other than the > statistical summary included in Fl. India intro. volume) and the complete > checklist is available online. > > > Regards > > Vijayasankar Raman > National Center for Natural Products Research > University of Mississippi > > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Datla CS Raju <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear DrVijaysankar, >> I treated R.malanarica as Xeromphis following my colleague JK >> Maheswari and you might know Randia-Stylocoryne etc were in >> Penins.India with local namesgiven by Lushington and also by Dr Reddy >> IFS who wrote For Flo.Andhra state including 2200 species.I gave my >> copy to Deccan circle now in Attapur.(Mohanram,Rolla,Rajamani and >> myself inaugurated BSI unit with Sanjappa as DBSI. >> Dr Rama Rao who worked with Henry in Coimbatore is now at >> ICFRE,Hyderabd who did ethnobiology. >> No harm in giving Tamil name Karai --by you.I will reexamine my new >> comb in 66 as Fr Mathews still in infancy at Kurseong (all his pls >> were identifiedby me).People taking names like Arcot etc are still >> under nawabi culture.Tipu himself respected Buchanan Hamilton and we >> are not finfding a likeness of this great surveyor and best friend of >> Roxburgh.Benjamin met Nizam and these two and Robert Wight are real >> explorers of Daksninapatha.I am most fortunate to have lineage from >> Chalukya-Chola-Pallallava-Chera dynasties -Tanjore-Kanchi as >> Capitals-1500 yrs ago when Taxonomy has its birth under >> Dioscoreus.Linne is called Dioscoreus -2. >> I sugested your name for summarizing eflora listing in FBI sequence. >> Hope you are doing well in Mississippi with new status.Good >> night dr Raman-dcsraju.. >> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > Many thanks Vijayasankar ji for appreciation. >> > >> > I am expecting Giby ji and other Malayalam knowing friends to provide >> name in Malayalam. >> > >> > Regards. >> > Dinesh >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 3:17 AM, Vijayasankar <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> You are most welcome Dinesh ji. >> >> >> >> Its interesting...all these names (in different languages) have the >> same meaning...and referring to the same species...so no confusion! >> >> >> >> [Actually I saw FoI page after finalizing the Tamil name, and read >> Gurumurthi ji's mail with Kannada name after sending my mail. Felt happy to >> see the similarities and convinced myself that I did not make an >> inappropriate suggestion :) Also delighted to know that Shrikant ji had >> similar thoughts.] >> >> >> >> Thanks for your efforts in putting all names together... >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Vijayasankar Raman >> >> National Center for Natural Products Research >> >> University of Mississippi >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Many many many thanks, Vijayasankar ji ... very nice naming! >> >>> Shrikant ji too has named this plant as वेल गेळा vel gela in his book >> Further Flowers of Sahyadri -- translates to ... climbing Randia. >> >>> Some while ago got the local name in Kumta (Kannada) from Gurumurthi >> ji ... ಬಳ್ಳಿ ಕಾರೆ balli kaare ... translates to ... climbing Randia. >> >>> >> >>> Regards. >> >>> Dinesh >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Vijayasankar < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Dinesh ji, >> >>>> >> >>>> I could not find any Tamil name for this species from online >> sources, incl. FRLHT's ENVIS database. >> >>>> >> >>>> If a new name has to be coined, I would suggest கொடிக்காரை 'Kodi >> karai' as its Tamil name (meaning 'climbing Randia', as also aptly >> used/coined by FoI). >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Regards >> >>>> >> >>>> Vijayasankar Raman >> >>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >> >>>> University of Mississippi >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Dinesh Valke < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Dear Tamil and Malayalam -knowing friends, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Please help me with the name(s) of Oxyceros rugulosus in Tamil and >> Malayalam. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Many thanks and regards. >> >>>>> Dinesh >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > >> > --- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to [email protected]. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > >> > >> > > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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