I think it is a female flower, and if my idea is correct, looking at the young ovary this may be Momordica subangulata subsp. renigera, often confused with M. cochinchinensis or sometimes M. dioica, latter having yellow flowers without dark spots and former with dark spots but acute to acuminate petals, as uploaded by Surajit ji.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Momordica$20Surajit/indiantreepix/tmmOgn82pgg/Qu3kujRPAMQJ -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 2:34 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Shrikant Ingalhalikar <[email protected]> > Date: 17 May 2013 14:20 > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:154219] Cucurbit for ID uploaded by Shrikant > ji a relook > To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> > > > Thanks for resurfacing, the ID is yet uncertain. M. subangulata has calyx > lobes purple from outside. I have pictures of plant that conforms to this > ID key. I am attaching the picture of fruit of this query plant (? or just > an ovary?) if it helps. The fruits did not ever get mature beyond this > stage. Regards > > > On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 12:17 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >> Date: 7 May 2013 18:14 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:154219] Cucurbit for ID uploaded by Shrikant ji a >> relook >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, Shrikant >> Ingalhalikar <[email protected]>, Vijayasankar Raman < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> Kindly have a re-look at this upload by Shrikant ji >> >> >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Momordica/indiantreepix/WqcNDkSD8W8/a-XHRGIve8cJ >> >> There seems to be a lot of confusion on the net regarding species of >> Momordica, often referred to as teasel gourd (though this name actually >> belongs to another cucurbit *Cucumis dipdaceus* which we dug out from >> our older posts). It seems M. dioica, M. cochinchinensis and M. subangulata >> subsp. renigera are much confused, although they are quite distinct in >> flowers and fruits. All three share a large bract at the base of flower >> (tip of peduncle).and male and female flowers on different plants. >> Based on flower the three can be differentiated in that flowers of dioica >> are yellow, without dark spots (nectaries) at the base of corolla, whereas >> remaining two have distinct dark dots at the base of pale yellow to nearly >> white corolla. The corolla lobes of M. cochinchinensis are pointed at tip, >> they are obtuse or rounded at tip. >> >> The fruits of dioica and M. subangulata are narrowed distinctly towards >> tip, whereas they are rounded at ends in M. cochinchinensis, in which the >> spines are not that dense, fruit larger mostly longer than 8 cm, turning >> yellow and finally red. In M. dioica fruits are smaller, usually shorter >> than 6 cm densely covered with longer spines. In M. subangulata there are >> two subspecies, subangulata with longitudinal ridges, no spines, surface >> totally smooth, and subsp. renigera with tubercles present and in >> longitudinal rows, surface more or less spinescent if ridges are present. >> >> I have feeling that flower uploaded by Shrikant ji belongs to M. >> subangulata. 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