Forgot to mention that in M. subangulata subsp. angulata fruits are smooth with longitudinal ridges.
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Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > I think it is a female flower, and if my idea is correct, looking at the > young ovary this may be Momordica subangulata subsp. renigera, often > confused with M. cochinchinensis or sometimes M. dioica, latter having > yellow flowers without dark spots and former with dark spots but acute to > acuminate petals, as uploaded by Surajit ji. > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Momordica$20Surajit/indiantreepix/tmmOgn82pgg/Qu3kujRPAMQJ > > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 2:34 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Shrikant Ingalhalikar <[email protected]> >> Date: 17 May 2013 14:20 >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:154219] Cucurbit for ID uploaded by Shrikant >> ji a relook >> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >> >> >> Thanks for resurfacing, the ID is yet uncertain. M. subangulata has calyx >> lobes purple from outside. I have pictures of plant that conforms to this >> ID key. I am attaching the picture of fruit of this query plant (? or just >> an ovary?) if it helps. The fruits did not ever get mature beyond this >> stage. Regards >> >> >> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 12:17 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>> Date: 7 May 2013 18:14 >>> Subject: [efloraofindia:154219] Cucurbit for ID uploaded by Shrikant ji >>> a relook >>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, Shrikant >>> Ingalhalikar <[email protected]>, Vijayasankar Raman < >>> [email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Kindly have a re-look at this upload by Shrikant ji >>> >>> >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Momordica/indiantreepix/WqcNDkSD8W8/a-XHRGIve8cJ >>> >>> There seems to be a lot of confusion on the net regarding species of >>> Momordica, often referred to as teasel gourd (though this name actually >>> belongs to another cucurbit *Cucumis dipdaceus* which we dug out from >>> our older posts). It seems M. dioica, M. cochinchinensis and M. subangulata >>> subsp. renigera are much confused, although they are quite distinct in >>> flowers and fruits. All three share a large bract at the base of flower >>> (tip of peduncle).and male and female flowers on different plants. >>> Based on flower the three can be differentiated in that flowers of >>> dioica are yellow, without dark spots (nectaries) at the base of corolla, >>> whereas remaining two have distinct dark dots at the base of pale yellow to >>> nearly white corolla. The corolla lobes of M. cochinchinensis are pointed >>> at tip, they are obtuse or rounded at tip. >>> >>> The fruits of dioica and M. subangulata are narrowed distinctly towards >>> tip, whereas they are rounded at ends in M. cochinchinensis, in which the >>> spines are not that dense, fruit larger mostly longer than 8 cm, turning >>> yellow and finally red. In M. dioica fruits are smaller, usually shorter >>> than 6 cm densely covered with longer spines. In M. subangulata there are >>> two subspecies, subangulata with longitudinal ridges, no spines, surface >>> totally smooth, and subsp. renigera with tubercles present and in >>> longitudinal rows, surface more or less spinescent if ridges are present. >>> >>> I have feeling that flower uploaded by Shrikant ji belongs to M. >>> subangulata. 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