Thank you Sir, Now i will be able to learn some abc of botany. Pity on
FoC<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250084021>,
they do not have you in their
board<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=112889>
.
Regards,'
surajit


On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Dr Santhosh Kumar <[email protected]
> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> In the illustration of F.leucopyrus, the branchlets ends in thorn. Thorn
> is a modified branch or shoot. Whereas the 'spine' is a modified leaf or
> its part or even stipules. I have seen F. leucopyrus, which is one of the
> common members in a deciduous or semi evergreen forests in Kerala often
> with thorns. Accidently I came across  the same species in evergreen
> forests , where the thorns are absent and ends with leafy branches.  This
> may not be a constant taxonomic character (It is my opinion only).
>
> Santhosh
>
>
> On 20 May 2013 16:43, surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dear Satish Sir,
>>
>> Have you ever seen what happens to a tree or a shrub when its main trunk
>> is cut at the very base?
>>
>> Regards,
>> surajit
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Attaching few my pictures of *Securinega leucopyrus* in flowering.
>>> My analysis: A Shrub generally doesn't have a single trunk. Classic case
>>> here. I have seen most of theses plants like this These branch like things
>>> arising from main stem/trunk/trunks are long often drooping. They produce
>>> *small *branches so probably called as branchlets in the said book.
>>> They have few leaves and never long what you are asking for..... Why the
>>> tips are thorny??? I can't answer that. Protection mechanism ...may be.
>>> Anyway the artist who has made this illustration seems to be good one
>>> preparing it so perfect.
>>>
>>> Dr Satish Phadke
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20 May 2013 18:22, surajit koley <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Congratulations Satish Sir, long ago i have 
>>>> admitted<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/96UvTLMoWjg/dtBAp5_uCk4J>your
>>>>  power of observations.
>>>>
>>>> But, why should the branchlets always be lengthy? Shouldn't there be
>>>> some short branchlets. just as have been illustrated in the bottom left of
>>>> the plate in
>>>> http://plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=150671?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> surajit
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes the book says same what I believe about thorns.."They may be
>>>>> called spinous tipped branchlets "
>>>>> On May 20, 2013 12:31 PM, "surajitkoley" <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sir,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you very much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for shrub or not,  Bengal Plants informs *Flueggea microcarpa* Bl.
>>>>>> is a deciduous large shrub or tree weed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for thorns in *F. leucopyrus* you can check Flora Indica -
>>>>>> http://ia600607.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?id=mobot31753000967882&itemPath=%2F18%2Fitems%2Fmobot31753000967882&server=ia600607.us.archive.org&page=n663_w292
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> surajit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, 20 May 2013 11:03:59 UTC+5:30, D.S Rawat wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Duthie in his document Flora of Upper Gangetic Plains has also
>>>>>>> mentioned these two species and differentiate them as-
>>>>>>> Unarmed; leaves 1-3 inches long..........................**
>>>>>>> ..............................**..............*F. microcarpa*
>>>>>>> Spinous; leaves rarely exceeding 1 inch long
>>>>>>> ..............................**......................*F.leucopyrus*
>>>>>>> He has mentioned its (F.microcarpa) distribution in Bengal also.
>>>>>>> Spines in F.leucopyrus are not distributed all along the branch but
>>>>>>> slender angular branchlets ends in a sharp spine.
>>>>>>> Both of these species are mentioned growing in Kumaon but I have
>>>>>>> seen only F.microcarpa which is a small shrubby plant and resemble 
>>>>>>> closely
>>>>>>> to your plant.
>>>>>>> DSRawat Pantnagar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, May 18, 2013 11:45:41 PM UTC+5:30, surajitkoley wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I think this is a shrub. But as i said earlier that villagers
>>>>>>>> often cut or prune weeds, making it difficult to ascertain the status 
>>>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>>> particular plant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> According to FoC it maybe *Flueggea virosa* (Roxburgh ex
>>>>>>>> Willdenow) Voigt, Hort. Suburb. Calcutt. 152. 1845.
>>>>>>>> According to The Plant List and FoP it might be *Flueggea virosa*subsp.
>>>>>>>> *virosa*.
>>>>>>>> Found no Bengali name.
>>>>>>>> Fruits are soft and juicy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> surajit
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