Garg ji As per GRIN Taxonomy website *Elaeodendron glaucum* (Rottb.) Pers. is the correct name and Cassine glauca (Rottb.) O.Ktze. as a synonym. It is good to follow local Flora, but as every Flora book sooner or later will become older, we keep the strategy of following KEW World Checklist (for families covered), GRIN Taxonomy and Sorting Plant Names, where ever available in that sequence. They keep on updating nomenclature. Only where recent nomenclature is not available for any species, we will follow the most recent local Flora, that covers this species.
-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Associate Professor, Department of Botany, SGTB Khalsa College University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018 Phone: 01125518297; Mobile: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:00 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Neil ji. > I think as per Dr. Archer's views earlier on Shreesh ji's picture, it > should be *Elaeodendron glaucum* (Rottb.) Pers. > Pl. correct me if I am inferring wrongly. > 2009/10/8 Neil Soares <[email protected]> > > Hi Mr. Garg, >> Sending a few recent photographs of Cassine glauca with flower buds. >> Regards, >> Neil. >> >> --- On *Thu, 10/8/09, J.M. Garg <[email protected]>* wrote: >> >> >> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >> Subject: [indiantreepix:20423] Re: Tree flowers for ID (130709 NSJ) >> To: "Robert Archer" <[email protected]> >> Cc: "indiantreepix" <[email protected]>, "Dr. Santhosh >> Kumar" <[email protected]>, "Shireesh Dharap" <[email protected]>, >> "Neil Soares" <[email protected]>, "narendra joshi" < >> [email protected]> >> Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:05 AM >> >> Further discussion in the matter alongwith a new attachment: >> "Dear Robert , Garg ji , >> The photo is from Wai, which near Mahabaleshwar in the central >> Western Ghat hills of Maharashtra state. >> I named it after identification from the 'Flora of Maharashtra state' >> brought out by the botanical survey of India ; where they mention the >> authority as : >> Cassine glauca (Rottb.)O.Ktze.Rev.Gen.Pl.1:114.1891; Ding Hou in >> Steenis; Flora Males. 1,6:286.1962. >> Elaeodendron glaucum (Rottb.) Pers.Syn. Pl1:241. 1805. >> I have no idea as to how to separate Cassine from Elaeodendron ; being >> an amateur myself . >> I leave the further search for the correct botanical name to you. >> Regards, >> >> Shireesh." >> >> "Dear Shireesh ji >> Thank you very much for your valuable reply. I assume at this stage that >> this plant would be correctly called Elaeodendron glaucum (Rottb.) Pers. I >> am however, curious to know wether there are possibly two species involved, >> one with white and the other with red fruit. Or was that something that came >> out of old botanical literature? Is it possible to send me more pictures of >> the leaves and fruit? I would be very grateful. >> With best wishes, Robert" >> >> "Attaching another photo : but I think these are buds, not fruit : I don't >> remember; I shot it a long time ago! >> The leaves are ovate with serrate margins." >> >> "Dear Shireesh ji >> Thank you very much. It shows very nicely the conspicuous very slender >> inflorescence (for Elaeodendron) and buds. >> With best wishes, Robert" >> >> >> >> >> 2009/10/6 Robert Archer >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > >> >>> >>> Dear Shireesh ji >>> >>> Thank you very much for the picture. Can you please tell me where it is >>> from? >>> >>> I am not sure it is Cassine glauca. According to Kostermans, who wrote >>> the partial revision of the genus, this plant is Cassine albens, with red >>> fruit. The "real" Cassine glauca, occurs only in Sri Lanka and has white >>> fruit. But his description of the flower, green flowers with white tips does >>> conform to the flower in your picture. I need some help to understand what >>> is going on here! Did Kostermans confused the species? >>> >>> Secondly, the names Elaeodendron and Cassine have been confused for >>> centuries. However, my own research and DNA analysis proved that this plant >>> is Elaeodendron. The genus Cassine with only 3 species, occur in South >>> Africa and looks very different, both in flowers and fruit from >>> Elaeodendron. >>> >>> I hope it is ok to send the reply by email. I have no internet at the >>> moment. >>> >>> With best wishes >>> >>> Robert >>> >>> >>> "J.M. Garg" >>> >>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> >>> 2009/10/05 02:45 PM >>> >>> A reply from Shireesh ji: >>> "Garg ji, >>> Indeed the new name is Cassine glauca ; previously known as Elaeodendron >>> glaucum. >>> Attaching one of my pics ." >>> >>> 2009/10/4 J.M. Garg >>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>> > >>> >>> > Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl. >>> > >>> > Earlier relevant feedback: >>> > "This is probably *Elaeodendron* *glaucum*, celastraceae" from >>> Shriseesh >>> > ji. >>> > >>> > I found *Elaeodendron glaucum* to be a syn. of *Cassine glauca* >>> recently >>> > discussed in the thread: >>> > >>> > >>> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/4ee224b7335d5cae >>> > # >>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> > From: narendra joshi >>> > <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>> > >>> > Date: 2009/7/13 >>> > Subject: [indiantreepix:14530] Tree flowers for ID (130709 NSJ) >>> > To: Indiantrees >>> > <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Dear all, >>> > >>> > A part of flowering tree from Darjiling is shown. 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