No longer elusive Nayan ji has uploaded perfect C. prophetarum. Thanks Garg ji for pointing out.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/$20Cucumis$20prophetarum$20STR$2061209$20–$20NSD$20120/indiantreepix/VEXTRJo4Pyo/UlQUdh29EMoJ -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:48 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. > > Some earlier relevant feedback: > > Thanks Gurcharan ji for the revisit. > My understanding about C. prophetarum is that its fruits are spiny (may > be variable from softly echinate to tuberculate) and with vertical > striations of dark and light green bands. > This is based on our collection from Bellary dt., Karnataka that also > looked exactly as shown in this > link<http://www.kcb-samen.ch/shop/?cPath=1403_1425&osCsid=25cd>as C. > prophetarum. If I am confused, I think I am not alone :) pl see this > thread<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/ATuGjhesR7M> > . > > Flora of > Pakistan<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=108642>describes > the fruits of this species as "...softly > echinate OR tuberculate" in the key. > ENVIS checklist of Flora of > TN<http://tnenvis.nic.in/tnenvis_old/PDF/floralchecklist.xls>as well as > Fl.Pres.Madras (attached) do not list C. sativus var. > hardwickii. They however enlist C. prophetarum. > As per the literature, C. sativus var. hardwickii (or C. hardwickii) is > restricted to northern India and some say only western Himalaya and FoC > mentions NE India. > In this situation, I eagerly look forward to know the id the plant that is > found wild in southern India. If C. prophetarum has only the form as > shown in the links given by you, then I realize that I am yet to see the > species. > Since you corrected me a couple of times, I am cautious now. But the older > threads need to be updated too. > Thank you > Regards > Vijayasankar Raman > National Center for Natural Products Research > University of Mississippi > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > Date: 28 May 2013 22:43 > Subject: [efloraofindia:156152] The elusive Cucumis prophetarum > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, Vijayasankar Raman < > [email protected]> > > > Dear members > I was just checking some Curcurbitaceae uploads, and noticed that in at > least 8 threads C. prophetarum was suggested as identification of the > plant, which mostly turned out to be Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii, and > one as Cyclanthera, and none to date as C. prophetarum. > I request members to hunt for the plants of C. prophetarum and upload > the same. It would be a real addition to the group. Here is how it will > look. > > http://www.arkive.org/cucumis/cucumis-prophetarum/image-G122362.html > > http://aquiya.skr.jp/zukan/Cucumis_prophetarum.html > > http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cucumis_prophetarum.JPG > > I would especially request Vijayasankar ji, who was involved in almost all > the threads. > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& > eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged > alphabetically & place-wise): > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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