*Dosakaya* is confirmed as *Cucumis melo *as per discussions in another
thread<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en-GB#!topic/indiantreepix/nT8Mqi6DqtA>
.



On 5 June 2013 20:39, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Vijayasankar ji for the pdf
> I find a number tangles in the Taxonomy of Cucumis species.
> My latest puzzle is Dosakaya (and possibly Mangalore cucumber vellarika).
> I had thought this to be Cucumis sativus only based on few entries on the
> net including, but having seen the fruits in California, I found it
> difficult to reconsile with C. sativus. The following link and attached pdf
> compel me to think that it may be C. melo subsp. agrestis var. dudaim.
> Your comments please!!
>
>
> http://chivukulakitchen.blogspot.in/2010/04/dosakaya-pacchadi-round-yellow-cucumber.html
>
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> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:17 AM, Vijayasankar <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Thanks Gurcharan ji for the revisit.
>>
>> My understanding about C. prophetarum is that its fruits are spiny (may
>> be variable from softly echinate to tuberculate) and with vertical
>> striations of dark and light green bands.
>> This is based on our collection from Bellary dt., Karnataka that also
>> looked exactly as shown in this 
>> link<http://www.kcb-samen.ch/shop/?cPath=1403_1425&osCsid=25cd>as C. 
>> prophetarum. If I am confused, I think I am not alone :) pl see this
>> thread<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/ATuGjhesR7M>
>> .
>>
>> Flora of 
>> Pakistan<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=108642>describes
>>  the fruits of this species as "...softly
>> echinate OR tuberculate" in the key.
>> ENVIS checklist of Flora of 
>> TN<http://tnenvis.nic.in/tnenvis_old/PDF/floralchecklist.xls>as well as 
>> Fl.Pres.Madras (attached) do not list C. sativus var.
>> hardwickii. They however enlist C. prophetarum.
>> As per the literature, C. sativus var. hardwickii (or C. hardwickii) is
>> restricted to northern India and some say only western Himalaya and FoC
>> mentions NE India.
>> In this situation, I eagerly look forward to know the id the plant that
>> is found wild in southern India. If C. prophetarum has only the form as
>> shown in the links given by you, then I realize that I am yet to see the
>> species.
>>
>> Since you corrected me a couple of times, I am cautious now. But the
>> older threads need to be updated too.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Vijayasankar Raman
>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>> University of Mississippi
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Dear members
>>> I was just checking some Curcurbitaceae uploads, and noticed that in at
>>> least 8 threads C. prophetarum was suggested as identification of the
>>> plant, which mostly turned out to be Cucumis sativus var. hardwickii, and
>>> one as Cyclanthera, and none to date as C. prophetarum.
>>>     I request members to hunt for the plants of C. prophetarum and
>>> upload the same. It would be a real addition to the group. Here is how it
>>> will look.
>>>
>>> http://www.arkive.org/cucumis/cucumis-prophetarum/image-G122362.html
>>>
>>> http://aquiya.skr.jp/zukan/Cucumis_prophetarum.html
>>>
>>> http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cucumis_prophetarum.JPG
>>>
>>> I would especially request Vijayasankar ji, who was involved in almost
>>> all the  threads.
>>>
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>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>
>>
>>
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