Great! Thanks Surajit ji for the useful descriptions and pictures! eFI is getting enriched with such diagnostic details.
Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:17 PM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > Sir, > > I write a few more points, besdies the keys already discussed in various > threads, that i observed in the two species - > 1) leaves are lobed in *M. cochinchinensis*, unlike *M. subangulata* var. > *renigera* > 2) lamina is glabrous on both sides in *M. cochinchinensis*, while it is > slightly scabrous in the other > 3) spines on fruits are different and inter spacing differs (already > discussed in another thread) > 4) we cut and ate both species, green fruits are rather hard in * > cochinchinensis* and slightly bitter tasted, while it is not at all > bitter in *renigera* > * > * > I am attaching seed photos of *M. cochinchinensis* ( tallies with the > photo in pdf - http://www.currentscience.ac.in/Volumes/103/02/0178.pdf), > i will take photographs of entire seed of *M. subangulata* var. *renigera* > . > > Thank you > Regards > surajit > > > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Vijayasankar ji >> There should be no doubt about this after real M. cochinchinensis was >> found by Surajit ji in the thread linked below >> I already had photographs with me (rather purchased online) of semimature >> yellow and red mature fruit. >> >> >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Kakrol/indiantreepix/lSutUfvKQ5I/yCA9HJQrYYkJ >> >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Vijayasankar <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> I think this is *M. cochinchinensis*, too. >>> I remember seeing this species in Gujarat. The fruits are nearly >>> spherical, of a cricket ball size, and the pulp is reddish orange when ripe. >>> The fruits in the posted pictures may be young and unripe. >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Vijayasankar Raman >>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>> University of Mississippi >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:42 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Finally concluded as M. subangulata subsp. renigera as per discussions >>>> in another >>>> thread<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/bNPuXOsu1y4> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]> >>>> Date: 15 June 2013 21:51 >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:157771] Hooghly Today : Momordica subangulata >>>> ssp. renigera ? >>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> This plant is growing beside TULSI-MANCH. >>>> According to owner it gives fruits every year. >>>> I didn't have much time, but a short scan gave me no glands on petiole. >>>> Neither i could examine the flower or bract. >>>> It is edible as vegetable. >>>> The KAAKROL in the market often grows bigger than this size. >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species >>>> * & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >>>> alphabetically & place-wise): >>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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