Nice ones Surajit ji

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On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 10:14 PM, surajit koley <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Sir,
>
> Attaching photo of seeds of the very same plant which i found beside the
> TULSI-MUNCH ( the 1st set of photographs in this thread).
>
> Thank you
> Regards
> surajit
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 11:26 PM, surajit koley <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sir,
>>
>> Attaching photographs of seeds of KAKROL which are sold in markets. They
>> do not sell ripe fruits.
>>
>> Thank you
>> Regards
>> surajit
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:47 PM, surajit koley <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Sir,
>>>
>>> I write a few more points, besdies the keys already discussed in various
>>> threads, that i observed in the two species -
>>> 1) leaves are lobed in *M. cochinchinensis*, unlike *M. subangulata* var.
>>> *renigera*
>>> 2) lamina is glabrous on both sides in *M. cochinchinensis*, while it
>>> is slightly scabrous in the other
>>> 3) spines on fruits are different and inter spacing differs (already
>>> discussed in another thread)
>>> 4) we cut and ate both species, green fruits are rather hard in *
>>> cochinchinensis* and slightly bitter tasted, while it is not at all
>>> bitter in *renigera*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> I am attaching seed photos of *M. cochinchinensis* ( tallies with the
>>> photo in pdf - http://www.currentscience.ac.in/Volumes/103/02/0178.pdf),
>>> i will take photographs of entire seed of *M. subangulata* var. *
>>> renigera*.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>> Regards
>>> surajit
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Vijayasankar ji
>>>> There should be no doubt about this after real M. cochinchinensis was
>>>> found by  Surajit ji in the thread linked below
>>>> I already had photographs with me (rather purchased online) of
>>>> semimature yellow and red mature fruit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Kakrol/indiantreepix/lSutUfvKQ5I/yCA9HJQrYYkJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Vijayasankar 
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think this is *M. cochinchinensis*, too.
>>>>> I remember seeing this species in Gujarat. The fruits are nearly
>>>>> spherical, of a cricket ball size, and the pulp is reddish orange when 
>>>>> ripe.
>>>>> The fruits in the posted pictures may be young and unripe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Vijayasankar Raman
>>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>>>>> University of Mississippi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:42 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Finally concluded as M. subangulata subsp. renigera as per
>>>>>> discussions in another 
>>>>>> thread<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/bNPuXOsu1y4>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: 15 June 2013 21:51
>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:157771] Hooghly Today : Momordica subangulata
>>>>>> ssp. renigera ?
>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This plant is growing beside TULSI-MANCH.
>>>>>> According to owner it gives fruits every year.
>>>>>> I didn't have much time, but a short scan gave me no glands on
>>>>>> petiole.
>>>>>> Neither i could examine the flower or bract.
>>>>>> It is edible as vegetable.
>>>>>> The KAAKROL in the market often grows bigger than this size.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
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