Thanks a lot Lalithamba ji & Vijayasankar ji, for clarification.

On 1 September 2013 05:12, Vijayasankar <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> In 2001, Venter made a new 
> combination<http://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/26843671#page/579/mode/1up>in 
> the name of
> *Finlaysonia wallichii *(Wight) Venter by including Hemidesmus wallichii
> [not H. indicus] Wight as basionym and Atherolepis wallichii (Wight)
> Hook.f. and Atherandra wallichii (Wight) Benth. as synonyms. He never
> included H. pubescens or H. indicus var. pubescens as synonym to F.
> wallichii. The same treatment is followed by 
> Tropicos<http://www.tropicos.org/Name/100339125>.
> F. wallichii (= H. wallichii) is "restricted to 
> Myanmar<http://etd.uovs.ac.za/ETD-db//theses/available/etd-07182013-103724/unrestricted/SidneyNC.pdf>"
> and does not occur in India.
>
> The Plant List <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/tro-2603979>quotes 
> Tropicos
> (record 2603979) <http://www.tropicos.org/Name/2603979> as the source
> reference for the inclusion of H. pubescens as synonym under F. wallichii.
> But, the particular record of Tropicos only says that *Hemidesmus indicus*var.
> *pubescens* (Wight & Arn.) Hook. f. is a synonym of *Hemidesmus 
> pubescens*Wight & Arn. Finlaysonia wallichii is not in the picture here.
>
> Therefore, the listing of *Hemidesmus* *pubescens* Wight & Arn. as a
> synonym of *Finlaysonia* *wallichii* (Wight) Venter in The Plant List page
> <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2812952>is probably due to an
> (yet another) erroneous linking of records.
>
> Venter's key to genera can be found in this BHL 
> page<http://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/26843671#page/581/mode/1up>.
> Here is the Tropicos page <http://www.tropicos.org/Name/100339125> for F.
> wallichii.
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 11:50 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> A reply:
>> "Dear all,
>> F- Finlaysonia; H-Hemidesmus
>> The plant list gave Hemidesmus indicus var.pubescens and H.pubescens
>> as synonyms; but in my observation, there are some differences with
>> Finlaysonia
>> The F=1 bark with prominent longitudinal ridges-glabrous
>> 2.hairs-H.dirty white to copper colored-hairs white,
>> 3.floral buds –corolla lobes overlapping anticlock-wise- in H.it is
>> valvate
>> 4.flower bowl shaped-no, H. star shaped.
>> 5. Leaves petiolate; petiole (3–)5–10 x 3–4 mm,-H.less tha 3mm;
>> 6. blade oblong-lanceolate to narrowly lanceolate, 96–125(–154) x
>> 12–15(–25) mm, herbaceous, sparsely scabrid- H. elliptic, coriaceous to
>> scabrid; 46x2-3.5cm;
>> 7. apices acute to attenuate, base rounded, rarely cuneate, margin
>> revolute and wavy, venation brochidodromous, 15–22 secondary veins on
>> either side of main vein,- H.base cordate; margin entire, apex emarginated
>> with a mucro; secondary veins 6-8;
>> 8. Corona lobes rod-shaped- H.not rod shaped;
>> 9.Corolla margin membranous;- H. margin as thick as innerpart.
>> Hence we need not completely honour the plant list. it needs some
>> revision. I consider it as another variety of Hemidesmus only; which I wish
>> to publish.
>> Ref:http://etd.uovs.ac.za/ETD-db//theses/available/etd-
>> 07182013-103724/unrestricted/SidneyNC.pdf
>> A TAXONOMIC REVISION OF FINLAYSONIA and STREPTOCAULON (PERIPLOCOIDEAE;
>> APOCYNACEAE)
>> by
>> NWIGWE CHIMDI SIDNEY  guided by DR. A.M. VENTER;
>>
>> Finlaysonia wallichii (Wight) Venter in Venter & R.L. Verh., Annals of
>> the Missouri Botanical Garden 88: 565 (2001). Basionym: Hemidesmus
>> wallichii Wight, Contributions to the Botany of India: 63 (1834)" from
>> Lalithamba ji.
>>
>>
>> On 31 August 2013 18:33, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks a lot, Lalithamba ji,
>>> How come The Plant List 
>>> <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2812952>states
>>> as below ?:
>>> *Finlaysonia wallichii (Wight) 
>>> Venter*<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2812952>,
>>> *Ann. Missouri Bot. Gard. 88: 565 2001*. (Syn: *Hemidesmus* *indicus*
>>> var. *pubescens* 
>>> Hook.f.<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2845075>;
>>> *Hemidesmus* *pubescens* Wight & 
>>> Arn.<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/tro-2603979>;
>>> *Hemidesmus* *wallichii* 
>>> Wight<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2845077>
>>> );
>>>
>>> Is it correct ?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21 August 2013 13:02, Lalithamba Avadhanam <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wish to share the 3 varieties of Hemedsmus indicus-yellow flowered;
>>>> Hemidesmus pubescens 2 varieties at E.ghats. the yellow centered
>>>> variety- leaves and flower are smaller than complete maroon variety.
>>>> Thank you
>>>> A.Lalithamba
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