Interesting to know how botanists' keen eyes find out the differences between the similar looking species.
Dr Satish Phadke On 1 September 2013 11:22, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks a lot Lalithamba ji & Vijayasankar ji, for clarification. > > > On 1 September 2013 05:12, Vijayasankar <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> In 2001, Venter made a new >> combination<http://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/26843671#page/579/mode/1up>in >> the name of >> *Finlaysonia wallichii *(Wight) Venter by including Hemidesmus wallichii >> [not H. indicus] Wight as basionym and Atherolepis wallichii (Wight) >> Hook.f. and Atherandra wallichii (Wight) Benth. as synonyms. He never >> included H. pubescens or H. indicus var. pubescens as synonym to F. >> wallichii. The same treatment is followed by >> Tropicos<http://www.tropicos.org/Name/100339125>. >> F. wallichii (= H. wallichii) is "restricted to >> Myanmar<http://etd.uovs.ac.za/ETD-db//theses/available/etd-07182013-103724/unrestricted/SidneyNC.pdf>" >> and does not occur in India. >> >> The Plant List <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/tro-2603979>quotes >> Tropicos >> (record 2603979) <http://www.tropicos.org/Name/2603979> as the source >> reference for the inclusion of H. pubescens as synonym under F. wallichii. >> But, the particular record of Tropicos only says that *Hemidesmus indicus >> * var. *pubescens* (Wight & Arn.) Hook. f. is a synonym of *Hemidesmus >> pubescens* Wight & Arn. Finlaysonia wallichii is not in the picture here. >> >> Therefore, the listing of *Hemidesmus* *pubescens* Wight & Arn. as a >> synonym of *Finlaysonia* *wallichii* (Wight) Venter in The Plant List page >> <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2812952>is probably due to >> an (yet another) erroneous linking of records. >> >> Venter's key to genera can be found in this BHL >> page<http://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/26843671#page/581/mode/1up>. >> Here is the Tropicos page <http://www.tropicos.org/Name/100339125> for >> F. wallichii. >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Vijayasankar Raman >> National Center for Natural Products Research >> University of Mississippi >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 11:50 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> A reply: >>> "Dear all, >>> F- Finlaysonia; H-Hemidesmus >>> The plant list gave Hemidesmus indicus var.pubescens and H.pubescens >>> as synonyms; but in my observation, there are some differences with >>> Finlaysonia >>> The F=1 bark with prominent longitudinal ridges-glabrous >>> 2.hairs-H.dirty white to copper colored-hairs white, >>> 3.floral buds –corolla lobes overlapping anticlock-wise- in H.it is >>> valvate >>> 4.flower bowl shaped-no, H. star shaped. >>> 5. Leaves petiolate; petiole (3–)5–10 x 3–4 mm,-H.less tha 3mm; >>> 6. blade oblong-lanceolate to narrowly lanceolate, 96–125(–154) x >>> 12–15(–25) mm, herbaceous, sparsely scabrid- H. elliptic, coriaceous to >>> scabrid; 46x2-3.5cm; >>> 7. apices acute to attenuate, base rounded, rarely cuneate, margin >>> revolute and wavy, venation brochidodromous, 15–22 secondary veins on >>> either side of main vein,- H.base cordate; margin entire, apex emarginated >>> with a mucro; secondary veins 6-8; >>> 8. Corona lobes rod-shaped- H.not rod shaped; >>> 9.Corolla margin membranous;- H. margin as thick as innerpart. >>> Hence we need not completely honour the plant list. it needs some >>> revision. I consider it as another variety of Hemidesmus only; which I wish >>> to publish. >>> Ref:http://etd.uovs.ac.za/ETD-db//theses/available/etd- >>> 07182013-103724/unrestricted/SidneyNC.pdf >>> A TAXONOMIC REVISION OF FINLAYSONIA and STREPTOCAULON (PERIPLOCOIDEAE; >>> APOCYNACEAE) >>> by >>> NWIGWE CHIMDI SIDNEY guided by DR. A.M. VENTER; >>> >>> Finlaysonia wallichii (Wight) Venter in Venter & R.L. Verh., Annals of >>> the Missouri Botanical Garden 88: 565 (2001). Basionym: Hemidesmus >>> wallichii Wight, Contributions to the Botany of India: 63 (1834)" from >>> Lalithamba ji. >>> >>> >>> On 31 August 2013 18:33, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks a lot, Lalithamba ji, >>>> How come The Plant List >>>> <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2812952>states >>>> as below ?: >>>> *Finlaysonia wallichii (Wight) >>>> Venter*<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2812952>, >>>> *Ann. Missouri Bot. Gard. 88: 565 2001*. (Syn: *Hemidesmus* *indicus* >>>> var. *pubescens* >>>> Hook.f.<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2845075>; >>>> *Hemidesmus* *pubescens* Wight & >>>> Arn.<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/tro-2603979>; >>>> *Hemidesmus* *wallichii* >>>> Wight<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2845077> >>>> ); >>>> >>>> Is it correct ? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 21 August 2013 13:02, Lalithamba Avadhanam <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I wish to share the 3 varieties of Hemedsmus indicus-yellow flowered; >>>>> Hemidesmus pubescens 2 varieties at E.ghats. the yellow centered >>>>> variety- leaves and flower are smaller than complete maroon variety. >>>>> Thank you >>>>> A.Lalithamba >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species >>>> * & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >>>> alphabetically & place-wise): >>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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