Hi everyone and thanks for an interesting discussion. Samir, your plant agrees (I think) in the floral characters with V. aconitifolia. What bothers me is the extreme hairiness of the young pod, and the unlobed leaflets. The fruit according to Flora of Pakistan is supposed to be pubescent when young, becoming glabrous. And the leaflets should be lobed, including the lateral leaflets, according to Bhandari. The Rheedea article throws a spanner in the works and I feel the need for more study with these plants! The more I learn the more I realise there is so much more to discover. When possible I will try to post my pics of what I thought was V. aconitifolia.
regards Radha On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 2:44:54 PM UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote: > > Samir ji, agreeing with you about Radha's diligence in responding to ID > queries. I am lucky to be with this group. Thanks everyone. > Regards. > Dinesh > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Samir Mehta <samirm...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> Based on Radha’s inputs and the Rheeda article I can now confirm my >> plant's id posted on this thread earlier to be *Vigna aconitifolia *(Jacq.) >> Maréchal. >> >> I always look forward to your posts Radha, for the effort and substance >> you put into each of them and it needs to be publicly acknowledged and >> appreciated. >> >> In my earlier post on this thread I had said, ‘...which I feel is also >> V. aconitifolia...‘ as I was following a different set of keys – not as >> expanded as the Rheeda article. >> >> Regards, >> >> Samir Mehta >> >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 9:30:19 AM UTC+5:30, Shrikant Ingalhalikar >> wrote: >>> >>> The original plant posted may be Vigna indica T.M. Dixit, K.V. Bhat & >>> S.R. Yadav. Please have a look at http://www.iaat.org.in/** >>> Rheedea21_1-7.pdf <http://www.iaat.org.in/Rheedea21_1-7.pdf>. Regards, >>> >>> On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 7:09:37 PM UTC+5:30, Samir Mehta wrote: >>>> >>>> Posting a Vigna creeper with 3-partite leaves which I feel is also V. >>>> aconitifolia, for group's scrutiny. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Samir Mehta >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sunday, October 6, 2013 2:01:42 PM UTC+5:30, Satish Phadke wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Will definitely do so and reply back. Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Dr Satish Phadke >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 6 October 2013 13:57, <radha...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Satish, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have recently seen this plant in Rajasthan and was able to check >>>>>> the characters. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can look at your Pune plants. See if the racemes are capitate, >>>>>> penduncles long, hairy like the stem. Bracteoles linear, with setaceous, >>>>>> ciliated tips protruding beyond the buds. Calyx 4-5 mm long, tube 1.5mm >>>>>> long, teeth setaceaous, hairy. >>>>>> >>>>>> In V. trilobata the calyx is broadly campanulate with very short >>>>>> teeth, deltoid and hairy. >>>>>> >>>>>> regards >>>>>> Radha >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, October 6, 2013 12:28:57 PM UTC+5:30, Satish Phadke wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the feedback Radha ji >>>>>>> I remember we had similar discussion when I had posted the pictures. >>>>>>> Both these IDs were there in the discussion. Will have to check the >>>>>>> details >>>>>>> as you have clearly mentioned. Thanks again for putting your valuable >>>>>>> inputs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dr Satish Phadke >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6 October 2013 09:11, radha veach <radha...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good morning, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't think the posted plant is V. trilobata. >>>>>>>> In V. aconitifolia the lobes are narrow, lateral lobes nearly as >>>>>>>> long >>>>>>>> as the terminal or again lobed. >>>>>>>> In V trilobaba the lobes are broad, lateral lobes much shorter than >>>>>>>> the terminal lobe. >>>>>>>> .( Ref: Flora of the Indian Desert by M. M. Bhandari) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With the pics available we can't see details of the calyx. >>>>>>>> I believe that the leaves of V. trilobata look more like the images >>>>>>>> you see if you do a Google search for the same. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>> Radha >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 05/10/2013, Satish Phadke <drsmp...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> > Yes it is the same which I had posted.* Vigna trilobata*. It is >>>>>>>> present at >>>>>>>> > around this time of the year at many places around Pune. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Dr Satish Phadke >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On 5 October 2013 21:15, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> May be as per Vigna >>>>>>>> >> trilobata<https://sites.**google**.com/site/efloraofindia/** >>>>>>>> specie**s/a---l/f/fabaceae/**vigna/**vigna-trilobata<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/f/fabaceae/vigna/vigna-trilobata> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> as >>>>>>>> >> per thread >>>>>>>> >> Fabaceae-Faboideae (Papilionaceae) Week : Climber/Climbing >>>>>>>> shrubs : Fwd: >>>>>>>> >> PlANT FOR ID 146 SMP OCT >>>>>>>> >> 09<https://groups.google.com/**f**orum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!** >>>>>>>> search**in/indiantreepix/Vigna$**20trilo**bata$20/indiantreepix/** >>>>>>>> yZ5XyUID**5xI/dxx2b8GfoJIJ<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Vigna$20trilobata$20/indiantreepix/yZ5XyUID5xI/dxx2b8GfoJIJ> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> On 30 September 2013 15:07, <radha...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> It could be Vigna aconitifolia >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> regards >>>>>>>> >>> Radha >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> On Saturday, September 21, 2013 11:51:51 AM UTC+5:30, Gopal >>>>>>>> Shinde >>>>>>>> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> Please help identify following herb found in wild. >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> Photographed 14Sep13, at Dhavlas, Maharashtra. >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> Gopal >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>> >>> Groups >>>>>>>> >>> "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>> it, send >>>>>>>> >>> an >>>>>>>> >>> email to indiantreepi...@**googlegroups.**com. >>>>>>>> >>> To post to this group, send email to indian...@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> **. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group** >>>>>>>> /indiantreepix <http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix>. >>>>>>>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**grou** >>>>>>>> ps/opt_out <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>. >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> -- >>>>>>>> >> With regards, >>>>>>>> >> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**U**ser:Jmgarg1<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand >>>>>>>> species*& >>>>>>>> >> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>>>>>> (arranged >>>>>>>> >> alphabetically & place-wise): >>>>>>>> >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/**w**iki/Category:J.M.Garg<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg>. >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> You can also use >>>>>>>> >> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each >>>>>>>> image. >>>>>>>> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >>>>>>>> Indian Flora, >>>>>>>> >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> >> world): >>>>>>>> >> http://groups.google.co.in/**gro**up/indiantreepix<http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix>(more >>>>>>>> >> than 2165 members & >>>>>>>> >> 1,64,000 messages on 31/8/13) or Efloraofindia website: >>>>>>>> >> https://sites.google.com/site/****efloraofindia/<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/>(with >>>>>>>> >> a species database >>>>>>>> >> of more than 8500 species & 1,70, 000 images). >>>>>>>> >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common >>>>>>>> Birds of >>>>>>>> >> India'. >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.**com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to indian...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/**group/indiantreepix<http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix> >>>>>> . >>>>>> For more options, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to indian...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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