Agree with you and share your thoughts Dinesh ji. Radha, a lot of hard work seems to have gone into the Rheeda article; Will wait for your post and comment later.
Regards, Samir On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 3:25 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi everyone and thanks for an interesting discussion. > > Samir, your plant agrees (I think) in the floral characters with V. > aconitifolia. What bothers me is the extreme hairiness of the young pod, > and the unlobed leaflets. The fruit according to Flora of Pakistan is > supposed to be pubescent when young, becoming glabrous. And the leaflets > should be lobed, including the lateral leaflets, according to Bhandari. > The Rheedea article throws a spanner in the works and I feel the need for > more study with these plants! The more I learn the more I realise there is > so much more to discover. > When possible I will try to post my pics of what I thought was V. > aconitifolia. > > regards > Radha > > > On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 2:44:54 PM UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote: > >> Samir ji, agreeing with you about Radha's diligence in responding to ID >> queries. I am lucky to be with this group. Thanks everyone. >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Samir Mehta <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Based on Radha’s inputs and the Rheeda article I can now confirm my >>> plant's id posted on this thread earlier to be *Vigna aconitifolia *(Jacq.) >>> Maréchal. >>> >>> I always look forward to your posts Radha, for the effort and substance >>> you put into each of them and it needs to be publicly acknowledged and >>> appreciated. >>> >>> In my earlier post on this thread I had said, ‘...which I feel is also >>> V. aconitifolia...‘ as I was following a different set of keys – not as >>> expanded as the Rheeda article. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Samir Mehta >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 9:30:19 AM UTC+5:30, Shrikant >>> Ingalhalikar wrote: >>>> >>>> The original plant posted may be Vigna indica T.M. Dixit, K.V. Bhat & >>>> S.R. Yadav. Please have a look at http://www.iaat.org.in/**Rhee** >>>> dea21_1-7.pdf <http://www.iaat.org.in/Rheedea21_1-7.pdf>. Regards, >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 7:09:37 PM UTC+5:30, Samir Mehta wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Posting a Vigna creeper with 3-partite leaves which I feel is also V. >>>>> aconitifolia, for group's scrutiny. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Samir Mehta >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, October 6, 2013 2:01:42 PM UTC+5:30, Satish Phadke wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Will definitely do so and reply back. Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr Satish Phadke >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6 October 2013 13:57, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Satish, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have recently seen this plant in Rajasthan and was able to check >>>>>>> the characters. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can look at your Pune plants. See if the racemes are capitate, >>>>>>> penduncles long, hairy like the stem. Bracteoles linear, with setaceous, >>>>>>> ciliated tips protruding beyond the buds. Calyx 4-5 mm long, tube 1.5mm >>>>>>> long, teeth setaceaous, hairy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In V. trilobata the calyx is broadly campanulate with very short >>>>>>> teeth, deltoid and hairy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards >>>>>>> Radha >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, October 6, 2013 12:28:57 PM UTC+5:30, Satish Phadke wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the feedback Radha ji >>>>>>>> I remember we had similar discussion when I had posted the >>>>>>>> pictures. Both these IDs were there in the discussion. Will have to >>>>>>>> check >>>>>>>> the details as you have clearly mentioned. Thanks again for putting >>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> valuable inputs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dr Satish Phadke >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 6 October 2013 09:11, radha veach <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Good morning, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't think the posted plant is V. trilobata. >>>>>>>>> In V. aconitifolia the lobes are narrow, lateral lobes nearly as >>>>>>>>> long >>>>>>>>> as the terminal or again lobed. >>>>>>>>> In V trilobaba the lobes are broad, lateral lobes much shorter than >>>>>>>>> the terminal lobe. >>>>>>>>> .( Ref: Flora of the Indian Desert by M. M. Bhandari) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With the pics available we can't see details of the calyx. >>>>>>>>> I believe that the leaves of V. trilobata look more like the images >>>>>>>>> you see if you do a Google search for the same. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>>> Radha >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 05/10/2013, Satish Phadke <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > Yes it is the same which I had posted.* Vigna trilobata*. It is >>>>>>>>> present at >>>>>>>>> > around this time of the year at many places around Pune. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Dr Satish Phadke >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On 5 October 2013 21:15, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >> May be as per Vigna >>>>>>>>> >> trilobata<https://sites.**google****.com/site/efloraofindia/** >>>>>>>>> specie****s/a---l/f/fabaceae/**vigna/**vigna**-trilobata<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/f/fabaceae/vigna/vigna-trilobata> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >> as >>>>>>>>> >> per thread >>>>>>>>> >> Fabaceae-Faboideae (Papilionaceae) Week : Climber/Climbing >>>>>>>>> shrubs : Fwd: >>>>>>>>> >> PlANT FOR ID 146 SMP OCT >>>>>>>>> >> 09<https://groups.google.com/**f****orum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!** >>>>>>>>> search****in/indiantreepix/Vigna$**20trilo**** >>>>>>>>> bata$20/indiantreepix/**yZ5XyUID****5xI/dxx2b8GfoJIJ<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Vigna$20trilobata$20/indiantreepix/yZ5XyUID5xI/dxx2b8GfoJIJ> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> On 30 September 2013 15:07, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> It could be Vigna aconitifolia >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> regards >>>>>>>>> >>> Radha >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> On Saturday, September 21, 2013 11:51:51 AM UTC+5:30, Gopal >>>>>>>>> Shinde >>>>>>>>> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> Please help identify following herb found in wild. >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> Photographed 14Sep13, at Dhavlas, Maharashtra. >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> Gopal >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>>> >>> Groups >>>>>>>>> >>> "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>> it, send >>>>>>>>> >>> an >>>>>>>>> >>> email to indiantreepi...@**googlegroups.**c**om. >>>>>>>>> >>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]**. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group**** >>>>>>>>> /indiantreepix <http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix>. >>>>>>>>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**grou**** >>>>>>>>> ps/opt_out <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>. >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> -- >>>>>>>>> >> With regards, >>>>>>>>> >> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**U****ser:Jmgarg1<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand >>>>>>>>> species*& >>>>>>>>> >> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>>>>>>> (arranged >>>>>>>>> >> alphabetically & place-wise): >>>>>>>>> >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/**w****iki/Category:J.M.Garg<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg>. >>>>>>>>> You can also use >>>>>>>>> >> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with >>>>>>>>> each image. >>>>>>>>> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >>>>>>>>> Indian Flora, >>>>>>>>> >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> >> world): >>>>>>>>> >> http://groups.google.co.in/**gro****up/indiantreepix<http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix>(more >>>>>>>>> >> than 2165 members & >>>>>>>>> >> 1,64,000 messages on 31/8/13) or Efloraofindia website: >>>>>>>>> >> https://sites.google.com/site/******efloraofindia/<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/>(with >>>>>>>>> >> a species database >>>>>>>>> >> of more than 8500 species & 1,70, 000 images). >>>>>>>>> >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common >>>>>>>>> Birds of >>>>>>>>> >> India'. >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.**c**om. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/**group**/indiantreepix<http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> For more options, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/**grou**ps/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to indiantreepi...@**googlegroups.com. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]**. >>> Visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/**group/indiantreepix<http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix> >>> . >>> For more options, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>> . >>> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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