Thanks Surajit ji for raising the query about distribution of species of *Araucaria* in India, and for the information you found with your study. Thanks to all for putting your thoughts in this post. Thanks to you too Garg ji for your study and thoughts.
When I posted this lone burnt out photo - I was under the impression that in Mumbai gardens there would be one species which is popular and planted as an ornamental Christmas tree. My assumption seems to be totally wrong ! While the study is welcome, the identification of plant in the post seems to be logically and scientifically not a good idea. Regards. Dinesh On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 11:44 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > As per my search, the following species are cultivated in India & *Araucaria > heterophylla *may not be growing in India (One can see the details by > clicking on the links). I think we need to check & correct our postings of > *Araucaria > heterophylla *so far on the group: > > > Gardening in > India<http://books.google.co.in/books?id=nt0k-zQzllwC&pg=PA487&dq=Araucaria+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ke2rUpKPL8aGrgfD94GADA&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Araucaria%20%2B%20india&f=false> > By > George Marshall Woodrow, G Marshall (1999- *Araucaria > bidwillii*<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/araucariaceae/araucaria/araucaria-bidwillii>, > *Araucaria* *cookii* R.Br. ex Endl. > synonym<http://www.theplantlist.org/about/#synonym>of *Araucaria > columnaris* (G.Forst.) > Hook.<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-14348>, > *Araucaria* *excelsa* (Lamb.) R.Br. > synonym<http://www.theplantlist.org/about/#synonym>of > *Araucaria* *columnaris* (G.Forst.) > Hook.<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-14348>, > *Araucaria cunninghamii* Aiton ex > D.Don<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-14352> > ) > ------------------------------ > Trees of Delhi: A Field > Guide<http://books.google.co.in/books?id=vw9IDLLkWtEC&pg=PA328&dq=Araucaria+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ke2rUpKPL8aGrgfD94GADA&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Araucaria%20%2B%20india&f=false> > By > Pradip Krishen (2006- Identifying Delhi's Christmas tree- Araucaria > columnaris<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/araucariaceae/araucaria/araucaria-columnaris>& > not *Araucaria > heterophylla*) > ------------------------------ > Floriculture in > India<http://books.google.co.in/books?id=2H4-39ZufiEC&pg=PA197&dq=Araucaria+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ke2rUpKPL8aGrgfD94GADA&ved=0CEAQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Araucaria%20%2B%20india&f=false> > By > Gurcharan Singh Randhawa, Amitabha Mukhopadhyay (1986- *Araucaria > bidwillii*<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/araucariaceae/araucaria/araucaria-bidwillii>, > *Araucaria* *cookii* R.Br. ex Endl. > synonym<http://www.theplantlist.org/about/#synonym>of *Araucaria > columnaris* (G.Forst.) > Hook.<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-14348>, > *Araucaria* *excelsa* (Lamb.) R.Br. > synonym<http://www.theplantlist.org/about/#synonym>of > *Araucaria* *columnaris* (G.Forst.) > Hook.<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-14348>, > *Araucaria cunninghamii* Aiton ex > D.Don<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-14352> > ) > ------------------------------ > > Species with description & keys in Flora of > Pakistan<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=102440>: > *Araucaria **columnaris* (Forster)Hook. > f.<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242426707> > *Araucaria **cunninghamii* > Sweet,<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200005238> > ------------------------------ > Species with distribution in annotated checklist of Flowering plants of > Nepal<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=102440>: > > *Araucaria **bidwillii* > Hook.<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200005237> > > > > > > > On 11 December 2013 07:47, surajit koley <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Good morning Satish Sir >> >> Thank you so much for this very interesting as well as enlightening >> quote. I wondered if it was possible to id an *Araucaria* merely by >> general appearance, without details on bark, leaves, cones etc. As i >> searched the Indian species i came across - >> >> 1. *bidwillii* - http://indiabiodiversity.org/species/show/242955 >> 2. *angustifolia* - http://indiabiodiversity.org/species/show/228765 >> 3. *cunninghamii* - >> http://indiabiodiversity.org/observation/show/303968 >> 4. *columnaris* - http://indiabiodiversity.org/species/show/242956 >> >> One site informed *heterophylla* is close relative to *columnaris*. and >> i was wondering how to differentiate them - >> http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ecoph27.htm >> >> Have a nice day >> >> Regards, >> >> surajit >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Exactly this type of question I was expecting during the fortnightly >>> episode not only about this but other species of gymnosperms too. >>> I have gathered some of the information about Gymnosperms from a very >>> interesting book : *"The secret Life of Trees" by Colin Tudge.* >>> I would like to quote a sentence from the book related to above matter. >>> India is strangely deprived of wild,native conifers. Conifers grow very >>> well in India - in plantations. But apart from a few Eurasian types on the >>> Himalayas, the only living native is *Nageia wallichiana* of the >>> southern hemisphere podocarp family in the Western ghats in the southwest >>> of the country. >>> He further says that..... >>> The reson might behistorical. India was wiped clean about 60 million >>> years ago by the huge deccan volcanoes, which buried a greater part of the >>> subcontinent in lava.The angiosperms, by then well established, seem to >>> have been the first to get back in to the devastated land(although this >>> idea clearly does not chime well with the conifers' reputation as >>> outstanding pioneers. >>> >>> >>> >>> Dr Satish Phadke >>> >>> >>> On 10 December 2013 07:49, surajit koley >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Sir, >>>> >>>> May I know how many and what species of *Araucaria* can be found in >>>> our country and how to identify them? >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:44 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: 3 December 2013 00:27 >>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:176247] Gymnosperms fortnight :: Araucariaceae >>>>> » ¿ Araucaria ? in a garden of Mumbai :: DV07 >>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gymnosperms fortnight >>>>> Araucariaceae ... araucaria family >>>>> ¿ *Araucaria* ? sp. >>>>> Dear friends, I hope this burnt photo gives a clue - hoping it to be >>>>> species of *Araucaria*.at Chota Kashmir garden, Mumbai on 11 MAR 07 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F423937081%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdM6uQRuCTiqadJE0iFDwapSN5eRg> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand >>>>> species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): >>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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