Dinesh ji Sorry I got it reversed P. fraternus 6, P. amarus 5 Here is the key according to Eflora of Pakistan
Plant completely glabrous; male & female flowers occuring together in some axils; sepals of both sexes 5; female disc 5-lobed, the lobes triangular 3 Phyllanthus amarus<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242337368> +Plant glabrous, subglabrous, scaberulous or scabrid; male & female flowers usually in separate axils, sometimes together; sepals of both sexes 6 (9)<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=125179#KEY-1-9> 9 (8)<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=125179#KEY-1-8> Leaves elliptic-oblong to elliptic-oblanceolate, up to 5 mm wide, not asperulous, dark green; female disc irregularly deeply 6-10-lobed; seeds ochreous-fulvous 2 Phyllanthus fraternus<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242442520> -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: > ... this query because the same photo is put up at FOI with the belief that > it is *P. amarus.* > At that time with the available resources, the ID seemed perfect to me ... > the recent discussions on *P. amarus* and *P.fraternus* is making me > re-think. > > Unless I am not understanding, it is going a little diffficult for me to > say the flower with 6 tepals point to: > *P. fraternus* ... Vijayasankar ji > *P. amarus* ... Gurcharan ji. > > Requesting Vijayasankar ji and Gurcharan ji to re-look at this 6-tepals > key. > > The flowers in my photo have 6 tepals (no confusion here) ... attaching a > cropped version of the same photo where we will be able to see 6 tepals > including the hind (eclipsed) one. > > Regards. > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Strictly speaking this plant is P. fraternus having 5 tepals and male and >> female flowers in separate part of the inflorescence, male in clusters of >> 2-3 in lower part and female singly in upper part. P. amarus has six tepals >> and male and female flowers occur in same axils, is also supposed to have >> smaller leaves. Frankly the two look very similar in habit (the leaves of P. >> fraternus almost as small as P. amarus towards the end of flowering season). >> They are distinct species if you follow GRIN taxonomy website, and P. >> fraternus synonym of P. amarus (priority application) if you follow Kew >> World checklist. Take your pick. >> >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Dinesh Valke >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Vijayasankar ji ... but why "probably *P. fraternus"*, if already >>> asserted it to be "not *P. amarus"* ? >>> I believe there can be no other *Phyllanthus* species comimg closer to >>> these two. >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Vijayasankar Raman < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Dinesh ji, >>>> >>>> There is no confusion regarding P. niruri because it doesn't occur in >>>> India. All plants which earlier called in that name are belong to (and to >>>> be >>>> called as) P. amarus, as we all know. >>>> >>>> And the attached picture 1225059862_a5fc85a488_o.jpg is not P. amarus. >>>> Probably P. fraternus. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards >>>> >>>> R. Vijayasankar >>>> FRLHT, Bangalore >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "indiantreepix" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=. >>> >> >> >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "indiantreepix" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=.
