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________________________________
 From: Vijayasankar <[email protected]>
To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> 
Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>; Neil Soares 
<[email protected]>; Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:192076] Embelia basaal (Roem. & Schult.) A. DC ; 
SAN June 07
 


In a way, both Santhan ji and Neil ji are right! They talk about right plants 
but the nomenclature is confusing. 

Santhan ji's plant is Embelia aurantiaca, formerly E. basaal (leaves subfleshy, 
sour, nerves indistinct) as per Flora of Ceylon [it is E. drupacea as per The 
Plant List]. 
Neil ji's plant is E. tsjeriam-cottam (leaves not fleshy, not sour, nerves 
prominent often purplish beneath).

Here is my note from an another thread: 

"The nomenclature of this group is confusing..... Few authors consider Embelia 
basaal auct. non Roem. & Schult. and E. tsjeriam-cottam (Roem. & Schult.) DC. 
as one and the same. However, Wadhwa & 
Sumithraarachchi (in Revised Handbook to the Flora of Ceylon-vol 13) 
have tried to clear the confusion by making a new combination for the 
first species as Embelia aurantiaca (Wall.) Wadhwa. They have 
also provided a detailed note on the nomenclature issue of this complex. But, 
for some (unpublished?) reason, this name is now listed as synonym ofEmbelia 
drupacea (Dennst.) M.R.Almeida & S.M.Almeida and this name has still not been 
recognized by GRIN." 

The treatments of Embelia in GRIN are seemingly based on old literature hence 
may not be up-to-date.



 
Regards  

Vijayasankar
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Vijayasankar Raman, Ph.D.
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:11 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:


>
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan <[email protected]>
>
Date: 26 June 2014 13:56
>Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:191262] Embelia basaal (Roem. & Schult.) A. DC ; 
>SAN June 07
>To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
>
>
>
>Dear Gargji I saw the images of Mr. Neil, They all Embelia tsjeriam cottam 
>only. In Embelia basal leaves are coriaceous, veins indistinct whereas in E. 
>tsjeriam-cottam leaf blade is membranous, veins distinct.Flowers tetramerous 
>in E. basal, it is pentamerous in E. tsjeriam- cottam.
>Regards
>Dr. Santhan
>
>
>
>On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:29 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Forwarding again for Id assistanceplease.
>>Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>This does not look like Wavding [Embelia basaal] to me. Please check. Some of 
>>my photographs of this are available at these links :
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>>Will send photographs of the fruit for comparison later if required. 
>>With regards,
>>                            Neil Soares. 
>>My photographs of Wavding fruiting. They were taken on my property at 
>>Shahapur.
>>                          With regards,
>>                             Neil Soares. 
>>  
>>Found a few more photographs.
>>                With regards,
>>                  Neil Soares 
>>  
>>  
>>
>>
>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>From: Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan <[email protected]>
>>Date: 17 June 2014 13:36
>>Subject: [efloraofindia:191262] Embelia basaal (Roem. & Schult.) A. DC ; SAN 
>>June 07
>>To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
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>>
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>>Embelia basaal (Roem. & Schult.) A. DC , Fam: Myrsinaceae; Wild Climbing 
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