Gargji
this has turned into a very important informative  thread
 worth keeping it in top while the lily etc week will be on

very nice discussion.

Thanks to the experts

I learnt a lot and am still extracting data.

All this old pictures that I could dig up in my printed pictures  archive
leaves a lot to be desired,  wants me to go to these BOt G and fly off to
NY to look at those leaves in detail again or to Kew at least but will have
to wait till next august when they will be full bloom again in the snowy
climes, in Kol bot g I think we will find them in late spring again... in
their full glory. Interesting find Longwood's name in the hybridization
madness,  Longwood's pond is so small I wonder how did they ever make
hybrids, unless they have hidden assets far off from the Bot G...

Usha di



On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:32 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: ganesh kumar <[email protected]>
> Date: 8 October 2014 12:21
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:182688] Interesting plants of AJCB Indian
> Botanic Garden: AMAZON LILY (Victoria amazonica), Shibpur, Howrah: SCFEB23
> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
>
>
> Dear Sir,
>
> The entire bud (particularly the sepals) will be covered by thorns in
> V.amazonica. And the leaves are not at all bright green as in the
> picture. The immature leaves are having dark maroon coloration in
> V.amazonica. Cruziana having thorn less sepals on the bud, the
> intermediate cross longwood hybrid is more similar to cruziana.
>
> Majority of the photographs found on internet are of V.cruziana or
> V.longwood hybrid. True Victoria photographs are hard to find out. i
> will update with photographs , my only v.amazonica is just 4 months
> old.
>
> Thanks n regards
> Ganesh
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 11:09 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
> >
> > Some earlier relevant feedback:
> >
> > The plant shown in photographs are Victoria cruziana. and V. amazonica
> looks more or less like our Eurayle (makhana). The leaf rim wont exceed 3-
> 4 inches and the surface is maroon when young and maroon mixed green when
> matured. I am having one specimen on V. amazonica
> > Thanks and regards
> > Ganesh Ananthakrishnan
> >
> > efi page on Victoria amazonica
> >
> > I have gone through the differences at Victoria cruziana and V.
> amazonica, I feel it is V. amazonica only. This is very clear from the
> thorns on the buds.
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Sukla Chanda <[email protected]>
> > Date: 28 February 2014 10:47
> > Subject: [efloraofindia:182688] Interesting plants of AJCB Indian
> Botanic Garden: AMAZON LILY (Victoria amazonica), Shibpur, Howrah: SCFEB23
> > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
> >
> >
> >
> > Victoria amazonica (Poepp.) Sowerby
> >
> > Family-Nymphaeaceae
> >
> > The species has very large leaves, up to 3 m in diameter, that float on
> the water's surface on a submerged stalk, 7–8 m in length. The leaf is able
> to support quite a large weight due to the plant's structure. To counter
> the fragile nature of the leaf, the weight needs to be distributed across
> the surface through mechanical means, such as a sheet of plywood. This
> allows the leaf to support up to 70 pounds.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sukla
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