Didi, Please do not rule out *S. guineense* also, there are several ssp. <http://www.zimbabweflora.co.zw/speciesdata/genus.php?genus_id=1013>, branches are often drooping <http://www.zimbabweflora.co.zw/speciesdata/species.php?species_id=142340>, fruits are roundish <http://www.worldagroforestry.org/treedb2/photos/IMG00763.jpg> to oval to elliptic and whitish green when immature and turning shiny purple-black <http://www.worldagroforestry.org/treedb2/speciesprofile.php?Spid=1578>, but the species grows in moist area.
Thank you Regards surajit On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Ushadi Micromini <[email protected]> wrote: > SUrajit > > I think you may be on the right tract with s caryophyllatum.. the calyx > lobes are subdued in the pic 5 above... > so perhaps its not really s jambos ... but s caryophyllatum... > > > now ALka needs to perhaps visit the tree a few more times... > ALka now you have more homework!!! > hope you will give us follow up info.. > Usha di > > > On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 12:53 PM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> There is another, but leaves are different - >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Syzygium_caryophyllatum_06.JPG >> yet another - >> http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Kochi/there-is-a-new-bite-in-the-fruit-bowl/article4982731.ece >> >> Thank you >> Regards >> surajit >> >> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 12:32 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Didi, I have both, GOLAP-JAM retains its calyx lobes >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/GsYhsdDlvvo/wGy8LFiQ6TUJ>, >>> leaves are rather oblong, flowers are significantly bigger >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/GsYhsdDlvvo/c6O-QsYTnQUJ>, >>> whereas KALO-JAM fruits are not globose >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/pnQKkEx6zjk/rM0739XGy3oJ> >>> . >>> There are cultivars of both species. But fruits characters are more or >>> less same, all matured *jambos* fruits retain calyx lobes. >>> >>> The one with globose fruits in this set of pics maybe *S. guineense* but >>> I ahve never seen that species. >>> >>> Thank you >>> Regards >>> surajit >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> ALKA.... >>>> I give up >>>> >>>> i was hoping you would discover the id all on your own by now and be >>>> exhilarated by it... >>>> Hint... pudiji and a someone else has shown these in last couple of >>>> years here and during this family episode also... >>>> >>>> but.... you perhaps dont have time to look at other people's cases... >>>> >>>> SO here it goes... >>>> >>>> *Its syzygium jambos*.. >>>> >>>> golap jaam in bangla at the local markets ... very few show up for a >>>> couple of weeks only... and those from the best trees do have a faint rose >>>> scent and taste... yummmmmm >>>> >>>> >>>> *and Surajit: * flowers and leaves often look very similar .. in all >>>> the jaams.. kalo jaam, saada jam and golap jaam... esp in PS shots... >>>> unless one looks at the fruits... >>>> look at 5 >>>> >>>> usha di >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:31 PM, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The fruits in pic "Syzygium cumini_3.jpg" do not look like *S. cumini* >>>>> . >>>>> "Syzygium cumini_4.jpg" looks like *S. cumini*. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> Regards >>>>> surajit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:56 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>> What a nice complete set of pictures >>>>>> enough to make a sensible diagnosis by a non-botanist like me >>>>>> so .... >>>>>> Not Syzygium cumini >>>>>> if you got the name from a label on the tree its wrong >>>>>> look at the fruits in the last picture >>>>>> and you will have your correct diagnosis >>>>>> so now could you please tell us what your decision that you yourself >>>>>> arrived at? >>>>>> >>>>>> you have eaten these in summer months >>>>>> usha di >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you Usha di for your feedback... >>>>>> However, I am now confused...the pics 1, 2 and 3 are from one >>>>>> location and 4 and 6 from another.. >>>>>> I have seen the fruiting of both these treese and they are very >>>>>> similar looking to the jamun that we get in the markets (oval to round >>>>>> shaped), except that they are a bit smaller in size. >>>>>> As a result, I assumed its identity to be S. cumini....but now since >>>>>> they are not, requesting to please provide ID... >>>>>> Thanks and regards >>>>>> Alka Khare >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: Alka Khare <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: 23 December 2014 at 14:20 >>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:210294] Crassulaceae, Combretaceae and >>>>>> Myrtaceae Fortnight :: Myrtaceae :: Syzygium cumini :: Mumbai :: >>>>>> ARKDEC-38 >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello friends >>>>>> >>>>>> Attached are pictures of Syzygium cumini captured at various >>>>>> cultivated gardens in Mumbai in February/March 2013. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks and regards >>>>>> Alka Khare >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>> etc. >>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>> >>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>> the world- more than 2400 members & 2,00,000 messages on 9.9.14) or >>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>> species database of more than 10,000 species & 2,00,000 images). Winner >>>>>> of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>> of India'. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Usha di >>>> =========== >>>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Usha di > =========== > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
