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On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 11:05 PM, surajit koley <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Didi,
>
> Please do not rule out *S. guineense* also, there are several ssp.
> <http://www.zimbabweflora.co.zw/speciesdata/genus.php?genus_id=1013>,
> branches are often drooping
> <http://www.zimbabweflora.co.zw/speciesdata/species.php?species_id=142340>,
> fruits are roundish
> <http://www.worldagroforestry.org/treedb2/photos/IMG00763.jpg> to oval to
> elliptic and whitish green when immature and turning shiny purple-black
> <http://www.worldagroforestry.org/treedb2/speciesprofile.php?Spid=1578>,
> but the species grows in moist area.
>
> Thank you
> Regards
> surajit
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Ushadi Micromini <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> SUrajit
>>
>> I think you may be on the right tract with s caryophyllatum.. the calyx
>> lobes are subdued in the pic 5 above...
>> so  perhaps its not really s jambos ... but s caryophyllatum...
>>
>>
>> now ALka needs to perhaps visit the tree a few more times...
>> ALka now you have more homework!!!
>> hope you will give us  follow up info..
>> Usha di
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 12:53 PM, surajit koley <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> There is another, but leaves are different -
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Syzygium_caryophyllatum_06.JPG
>>> yet another -
>>> http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Kochi/there-is-a-new-bite-in-the-fruit-bowl/article4982731.ece
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>> Regards
>>> surajit
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 12:32 PM, surajit koley <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Didi, I have both, GOLAP-JAM retains its calyx lobes
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/GsYhsdDlvvo/wGy8LFiQ6TUJ>,
>>>> leaves are rather oblong, flowers are significantly bigger
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/GsYhsdDlvvo/c6O-QsYTnQUJ>,
>>>> whereas KALO-JAM fruits are not globose
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/pnQKkEx6zjk/rM0739XGy3oJ>
>>>> .
>>>> There are cultivars of both species. But fruits characters are more or
>>>> less same, all matured *jambos* fruits retain calyx lobes.
>>>>
>>>> The one with globose fruits in this set of pics maybe *S. guineense* but
>>>> I ahve never seen that species.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>> Regards
>>>> surajit
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Ushadi Micromini <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ALKA....
>>>>> I give up
>>>>>
>>>>>  i was hoping  you would discover the id all on your own by now and be
>>>>> exhilarated by it...
>>>>> Hint... pudiji and a  someone else has shown these in last couple of
>>>>> years here and during this family episode also...
>>>>>
>>>>> but....  you perhaps dont have time to look at other people's cases...
>>>>>
>>>>> SO here it goes...
>>>>>
>>>>> *Its syzygium jambos*..
>>>>>
>>>>> golap jaam in bangla at the local markets ... very few show up for a
>>>>> couple of weeks only...  and those from the best trees do have a faint 
>>>>> rose
>>>>> scent and taste... yummmmmm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *and Surajit: * flowers and leaves  often look very similar .. in all
>>>>> the jaams.. kalo jaam, saada jam and golap jaam...    esp in PS shots...
>>>>> unless one looks at the fruits...
>>>>>  look at 5
>>>>>
>>>>> usha di
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:31 PM, surajit koley <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The fruits in pic "Syzygium cumini_3.jpg" do not look like *S.
>>>>>> cumini*.
>>>>>> "Syzygium cumini_4.jpg" looks like *S. cumini*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> surajit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:56 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>>>>>   What a nice complete set of pictures
>>>>>>> enough to make a sensible diagnosis by a non-botanist like me
>>>>>>> so ....
>>>>>>> Not Syzygium cumini
>>>>>>> if you got the name from a label on the tree its wrong
>>>>>>> look at the fruits in the last picture
>>>>>>> and you will have your correct diagnosis
>>>>>>> so now could you please tell us what your decision that you yourself
>>>>>>> arrived at?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you have eaten these in summer months
>>>>>>> usha di
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Thank you Usha di for your feedback...
>>>>>>> However, I am now confused...the pics 1, 2 and 3 are from one
>>>>>>> location and 4 and 6 from another..
>>>>>>> I have seen the fruiting of both these treese and they are very
>>>>>>> similar looking to the jamun that we get in the markets (oval to round
>>>>>>> shaped), except that they are a bit smaller in size.
>>>>>>> As a result, I assumed its identity to be S. cumini....but now since
>>>>>>> they are not, requesting to please provide ID...
>>>>>>> Thanks and regards
>>>>>>> Alka Khare
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>> From: Alka Khare <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: 23 December 2014 at 14:20
>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:210294] Crassulaceae, Combretaceae and
>>>>>>> Myrtaceae Fortnight :: Myrtaceae :: Syzygium cumini :: Mumbai :: 
>>>>>>> ARKDEC-38
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello friends
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Attached are pictures of Syzygium cumini captured at various
>>>>>>> cultivated gardens in Mumbai in February/March 2013.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks and regards
>>>>>>> Alka Khare
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>>
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