thanks Gurcharanji for all these pictures... perusing them increases my questions... swiss chard tastes and crunches differently in mouth.. cant really be eaten raw as in salsd where as young "spinach" leaves can be ... in ca how can swiss chard be in same group as spinach???? boggles my mind... a lot of your pictures are swiss chard and not spinach nor beet greens...
and the spinach in kolkata can not be eaten raw ,... the crunch and chewing difficulty with too much to chew and taste not the same ... botanists have to separate out these two groups ... all the different spinaches as in this case and all the brassica veggies... mutations happened a long time ago ... giving taxonomists a long time to study them and separate them.. haven't anybody done chromosomes and DNA analysis of these ? i find this a very fertile ground for finally naming them into sep entitites... i would do it myself if i were a young hot shot botanist/horticulturist starting my career now... personally i dont see an end usha di On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Here are some for you Ushadi > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Ushadi >> Spinach beet, beet leaf, Indian spinach, Beta vularis var. maritima >> (formerly var. bengalensis) that I am talking about does not have swollen >> roots like typical beet, nor are petioles that flesh and swollen. We had >> both beet root plant and Spinach beet in our College garden. >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Gurcharanji >>> >>> whole foods is where used to buy all my green groceries.. beet greens is >>> just that, often attached to beets and stalk of the leaf is red... >>> >>> and beet greens (often attached to beet root ) I buy here in kolkata >>> from organic gardens are same as beet green one buys in wholefoods over >>> there >>> >>> not like the spinach we get in India where leaves are thick, smooth and >>> shiny and beigish or greenish water laden stalks... >>> even if the name is same these are different in the looks... >>> i have yet to really come to terms with this classification.. >>> >>> a couple of years ago I think we had similae discussion right here.. >>> >>> perhaps someone knowledgable needs to plant all three ... >>> the spinach of india.. >>> spinach of usa >>> and real beets for its green >>> and study them right until they flower and set seeds >>> >>> do chemical analysis and even DNA fingerprinting... may be we can sep >>> them then... >>> >>> I dont see any other way... >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I think slightly less in Spinach beet (610) as compared to spinach >>>> (750). >>>> >>>> http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=48 >>>> >>>> >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> thank you, Gurcharanji >>>>> >>>>> so what we eat as palak / spinach in india may not have as much >>>>> oxalates as in the real spinach? >>>>> is there a comparison of chemical analysis of the beta vs spinach done >>>>> ? >>>>> >>>>> a reference or two then, please >>>>> >>>>> usha di >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Spinacia oleracea only. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Gurcharanji >>>>>>> what is the aspinach fresh bundles we get in california? >>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hastate leaves and unisexual flowers are characteristic of Spinacia >>>>>>>> oleracea. I remember, when in one College when I went as examiner and >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> insisted on calling Delhi Palak as Spinacia oleracea, I told them after >>>>>>>> getting frustrated, OK if any student shows flowers as bisexual (as >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> are in Beta vulgaris) I would detect their marks. That did the trick. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes Rawat ji >>>>>>>>> I had tough time telling my colleagues in Delhi in 1975 that what >>>>>>>>> they teach in taxonomy practical classes is not Spinacea oleracea. It >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> rather Beta vulgaris var. benghalensis now known as var. maritima, >>>>>>>>> Indian >>>>>>>>> spinach or beet leaf. And yesterday in Krishi Vigyan mela were >>>>>>>>> Vilayati >>>>>>>>> Palak (obviously Spinacea oleracea) and three cultivars of Beta >>>>>>>>> vularis >>>>>>>>> var. maritima (as PUSA Palak) were grown together, and Beta vulgaris >>>>>>>>> separately. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 9:38 AM, D.S Rawat < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The true *Spinacia oleracea* var. *oleracea* cultivated in >>>>>>>>>> Pantnagar. >>>>>>>>>> It is known as '*Pahadi Palak*' (in Uttarakhand) indicating its >>>>>>>>>> affinity for cooler climate of hills. >>>>>>>>>> Seeds in this cultivated variety have distinct spines. >>>>>>>>>> Most of us now understand that commonly cultivated Palak in >>>>>>>>>> warmer parts of India is not *Spinacia oleracea*. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dr D.S.Rawat >>>>>>>>>> Department of Biological Sciences, G.B. 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