Mr Gokhale... Very Interesting picture of the two fruits side by side
Would your nurseryman friend loan you some of those seeds and fibers to photograph ? I wonder if in java, they collect and keep their fibres separate, ie is there any qualitative difference: or in their seed oil..? and for botanists esp economic botanists : some more questions? if ovaries are different, are chromosome numbers different ? flower structure? leaves? usha di On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:25 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Achyut Gokhale <[email protected]> > Date: 19 March 2015 at 09:26 > Subject: Re: two kinds of fruit of cochlospermum > To: Dharma S <[email protected]> > Cc: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> > > > yes,of course it is cochlospermum. but i suspect that there are two > species or at least a variation is present in the area where i visit > regularly. > > if you have flora of java, by backer, check cochlospermum. there two > species mentioned. the descriptions both start with ovary. one says ovary > glabrous, the other says ovary pubescent. > > i have a friend who runs a nursery as professsion. but he raises local > trees also and he confirms that the area where he collects cochlospermum > seeds, there are two kinds of fruits and they are on different trees. he > has the same suspicion as mine. > > i dont know where you stay. if you do come to pune, we can visit. of > course, this should happen before 20 april, as i will then be away for four > months. > > regards, gokhale > > gokhale > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Dharma S <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks shri Achyut >> >> That's interesting. But I distinctly recall seeing both types of fruit in >> this species. From the picture you uploaded the flower seems to suggest >> Cochlospermum. >> >> Regds >> >> Dharma >> >> On Wednesday, March 18, 2015, Achyut Gokhale <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Achyut Gokhale < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear shri Dharamjit, >>>> >>>> thanks for the response. >>>> >>>> the grey fruit is grey from the time a flower is turning to fruit, >>>> right from the fruits juvenile form. it continues grey throughout, and when >>>> it dehisces. >>>> >>>> i can only describe the ovary of the flower - it is greyish white >>>> pubescent. >>>> >>>> i have some pics, but unfortunately the gmail is refusing to attach >>>> these to the email. >>>> >>>> achyut gokhale >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Dharma S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have seen both types of this fruit on cochlospermum. The purple >>>>> colour is there initially then turns greyish. After this happens it bursts >>>>> and releases winged seeds. I have one in my living room now that I am >>>>> watching! >>>>> >>>>> I think it's the same species >>>>> >>>>> Rgds >>>>> >>>>> Dharma >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, February 27, 2015, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cochlospermum >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/cochlospermaceae/cochlospermum> >>>>>> species >>>>>> so far in efi >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: Achyut Gokhale <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: 26 February 2015 at 22:22 >>>>>> Subject: two kinds of fruit of cochlospermum >>>>>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> attached image, showing fruit from one set of trees all bearing this >>>>>> purple coloured glabrous fruit, and second fruit from another set of >>>>>> trees >>>>>> all bearing this tennisball textured fruit. >>>>>> >>>>>> both groups of trees are from the same area. >>>>>> >>>>>> may i request if this could be sent up on your website to elicit >>>>>> information on the species or varieties. >>>>>> >>>>>> amgokhale >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>> etc. >>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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