Thats what exactly i said on the basis of two links i have given i thought it is L biflora but as i said i have never seen L chinensis it is up to you to decide as you have come to conclusion it is L chinensis i mean i stand corrected Thanks
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 10:01 PM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > Sir and Smita Ji, > > I hesitate to say that this plate or photograph is not enough to identify > the plant at species level. I am sorry Smita Ji I couldn't find differences > of *L. biflora* and *L. chinensis* in the FoC and pdf links you have > provided. I already have the pdf paper since 2012 - > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/RX4LT0YCOkY/6SrZFRng5MsJ. > And when I write "account of *Leucas chinensis* (Retz.) R. Br. in FoC is > a bit different than Indian sites" it means I have read FoC description. > > While some authors think that *L. biflora* doesn't form flowering whorl > <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=ELTyjE8Ji8cC&pg=PA186&dq=Leucas+biflora&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vkC7UOq2JoqQrgfo4YCAAQ&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Leucas%20biflora&f=false>, > and quite naturally when we see that usually there are only 1 or 2 flowers > per verticillaster, other authors use the term "whorl" > <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=MX-F9BSgh0cC&pg=PA536&dq=Leucas+biflora&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vkC7UOq2JoqQrgfo4YCAAQ&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Leucas%20biflora&f=false> > when they note presence of 4 or more flowers. > > Let's see what are Smita Ji's points - > > - "stem looks quadrangular" = *L. chinensis* stem is or can be > quadrangular > > <http://www.iosrjournals.org/iosr-jestft/papers/vol5-issue2/I0525054.pdf?id=2425> > - "leaves petiolate" - as per Kerala site > <http://keralaplants.in/keralaplantsdetails.aspx?id=Leucas_chinensis> > (I have pasted link earlier) *L. chinensis* leaves have petioles 0.5 > to 3.5 cm long. So informs Indian Biodiversity Portal. > <http://indiabiodiversity.org/species/show/251140> In KEW herb > <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000929492> > petiolate leaf can be seen. Same can be seen in Taiwan site > <http://yunol.stes.tc.edu.tw/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=22688> Attached > here Retzius' account > <http://www.archive.org/stream/mobot31753003566566#page/n60/mode/1up>. > - "leaves lanceolate" = this is one thing I fail to find any ref. But > I do not think only leaf shape can reject a probable ID. Because things are > more favourable to *L. chinensis* thank to *L. biflora*. > > Smita Ji, I also never seen *L. chinensis* but then I didn't see many > many species.... yet I try. > > Thank you > Regards > > > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I am happy that Surajitji is back armed with his websites and solutions >> with nomenclatural and identification problems. I am sure now I will get >> the correct identity. >> Regards to all. >> TC. >> >> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Smita Raskar <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200019772 >>> >>> http://nopr.niscair.res.in/bitstream/123456789/12044/1/IJTK%2010%283%29%20575-577.pdf >>> >>> find out difference between two here please >>> i have seen L biflora not L chinensis so you only decide >>> Thanks >>> Regards >>> >>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:44 AM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> It is interesting to note that account of *Leucas chinensis* (Retz.) >>>> R. Br. in FoC is a bit different than Indin sites like >>>> http://keralaplants.in/keralaplantsdetails.aspx?id=Leucas_chinensis. >>>> Also one has to take note of calyx mouth >>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000929492. >>>> >>>> Interestingly, there is also one *Leucas mollissima* var. *chinensis* >>>> <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000929486>, one *L. >>>> chinensis* var. *lanata* ... etc which KEW >>>> <http://wfo.kew.org/taxon/urn:kew.org:wcs:taxon:111659> thinks are >>>> synonyms of *L. chinensis*. >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> Regards >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:16 AM, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Smita Madam, >>>>> >>>>> I remember you identified my thread of *Leucas biflora* >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/RX4LT0YCOkY/vKha7wFYRfIJ >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> Usually in *L. biflora* (Vahl) Sm. number of flowers per whorl is 1 >>>>> to 4 (sometimes upto 6) and flowers are pedicellate. Here the number of >>>>> flowers seems to be more than *biflora* and those flowers look >>>>> sessile. Moreover flowers are densely arranged. >>>>> >>>>> So, I request you to reconsider the ID of this species. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> >>>>> With regards >>>>> >>>>> surajit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:36 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>> >>>>>> Leucas >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lamiaceae/leucas> >>>>>> species >>>>>> in eFloraofindia (with details/ *keys *from published papers/ >>>>>> regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever >>>>>> available) >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: 2 May 2015 at 19:43 >>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:222426] Lamiaceae (incl. 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