I would like to put a question mark on its identity as *Leucas chinensis* (Retz.) R. Br. The species usually has 3-8 flowers per whorl; 1-1.5 cm long calyx tube, abruptly dilated mouth, broadly triangular spreading teeth -- all these characters are not clear in the attached photographs.
This can't be *L. biflora* as well. *L. montana* (Roth.) Spreng can be straggler, but have truncate or rounded leaf base. *L. lanata* var. *lanata*, an erect perennial, has rounded or slightly narrowed leaf base. *L. decemdentata* var. *decemdentata*, an annual can have cuneate leaf base (*L. chinensis* also). So, id of this one remains unresolved. Thank you Regards surajit koley a *non-botanist* member of efloraofIndia google group On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 11:26 PM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > > - *Leucas chinensis* > > > The problem is TPL <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-111657> > thinks *L. chinensis*, *L. chinensis* var. *lanata*, *L. mollisima* var. > *chinensis* ....all synonymous (with one or more star rating). But FoC > thinks otherwise - > > - http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200019772 > (leaaves > sessile to sub-sessile) > - http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200019776 > (petiole > to 1 cm, under *mollissima*) > > Unfortunately FoC doesn't feature *L. biflora*. > > It is interesting to note IPNI > <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do?id=449334-1> detail on *Leucas > chinensis* R. Br. The protologue can be found (attached herewith also) at > http://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/36315781#page/372/mode/1up.. More, > interesting is account of *Leucas* by Brown in that protologue. Here is > an illustration of *decemdentata* (it's a different taxon in TPL) - > http://plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=56143&mobile=0&code_category_taxon= > . > > > - *Leucas biflora* > > > IPNI informs"basionym not stated > <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do;jsessionid=A3C3AC335D36568A81D6F345B05B526A?id=449321-1&back_page=%2Fipni%2FeditAdvPlantNameSearch.do%3Bjsessionid%3DA3C3AC335D36568A81D6F345B05B526A%3Ffind_infragenus%3D%26find_isAPNIRecord%3Dtrue%26find_geoUnit%3D%26find_includePublicationAuthors%3Dtrue%26find_addedSince%3D%26find_family%3D%26find_genus%3DLeucas%26find_isGCIRecord%3Dtrue%26find_infrafamily%3D%26find_rankToReturn%3D%26find_publicationTitle%3D%26find_authorAbbrev%3D%26find_infraspecies%3D%26find_includeBasionymAuthors%3Dtrue%26find_modifiedSince%3D%26find_isIKRecord%3Dtrue%26find_species%3D%26output_format%3Dnormal>" > for *Leucas biflora* (Vahl) Sm. Protologue > <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do?id=449473-1> of *Leucas > procumbens* Thwaites can be found at > http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/528167#page/247/mode/1up This > protologue refers Wight's illustration > <http://plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=35222&mobile=0&code_category_taxon=>. > Attached herewith Wight's account of the species. > > I think I have provided ample links of websites for *nomenclature and > identification problems*. > > Unless we have the "work(s) > <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/WlIunMCOKcU/t9FOMHYRXoUJ>" > mentioned in another thread, along with more elaborate photographs of this > species nothing is confirmed. > > Thank you > Regards > surajit > > > > > > On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Smita Raskar <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thats what exactly i said on the basis of two links i have given i >> thought it is L biflora >> but as i said i have never seen L chinensis it is up to you to decide >> as you have come to conclusion it is L chinensis >> i mean i stand corrected >> Thanks >> >> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 10:01 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Sir and Smita Ji, >>> >>> I hesitate to say that this plate or photograph is not enough to >>> identify the plant at species level. I am sorry Smita Ji I couldn't find >>> differences of *L. biflora* and *L. chinensis* in the FoC and pdf links >>> you have provided. I already have the pdf paper since 2012 - >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/RX4LT0YCOkY/6SrZFRng5MsJ. >>> And when I write "account of *Leucas chinensis* (Retz.) R. Br. in FoC >>> is a bit different than Indian sites" it means I have read FoC description. >>> >>> While some authors think that *L. biflora* doesn't form flowering whorl >>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=ELTyjE8Ji8cC&pg=PA186&dq=Leucas+biflora&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vkC7UOq2JoqQrgfo4YCAAQ&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Leucas%20biflora&f=false>, >>> and quite naturally when we see that usually there are only 1 or 2 flowers >>> per verticillaster, other authors use the term "whorl" >>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=MX-F9BSgh0cC&pg=PA536&dq=Leucas+biflora&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vkC7UOq2JoqQrgfo4YCAAQ&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Leucas%20biflora&f=false> >>> when they note presence of 4 or more flowers. >>> >>> Let's see what are Smita Ji's points - >>> >>> - "stem looks quadrangular" = *L. chinensis* stem is or can be >>> quadrangular >>> >>> <http://www.iosrjournals.org/iosr-jestft/papers/vol5-issue2/I0525054.pdf?id=2425> >>> - "leaves petiolate" - as per Kerala site >>> <http://keralaplants.in/keralaplantsdetails.aspx?id=Leucas_chinensis> >>> (I have pasted link earlier) *L. chinensis* leaves have petioles 0.5 >>> to 3.5 cm long. So informs Indian Biodiversity Portal. >>> <http://indiabiodiversity.org/species/show/251140> In KEW herb >>> <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000929492> >>> petiolate leaf can be seen. Same can be seen in Taiwan site >>> <http://yunol.stes.tc.edu.tw/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=22688> Attached >>> here Retzius' account >>> <http://www.archive.org/stream/mobot31753003566566#page/n60/mode/1up> >>> . >>> - "leaves lanceolate" = this is one thing I fail to find any ref. >>> But I do not think only leaf shape can reject a probable ID. Because >>> things >>> are more favourable to *L. chinensis* thank to *L. biflora*. >>> >>> Smita Ji, I also never seen *L. chinensis* but then I didn't see many >>> many species.... yet I try. >>> >>> Thank you >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I am happy that Surajitji is back armed with his websites and solutions >>>> with nomenclatural and identification problems. I am sure now I will get >>>> the correct identity. >>>> Regards to all. >>>> TC. >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Smita Raskar <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200019772 >>>>> >>>>> http://nopr.niscair.res.in/bitstream/123456789/12044/1/IJTK%2010%283%29%20575-577.pdf >>>>> >>>>> find out difference between two here please >>>>> i have seen L biflora not L chinensis so you only decide >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:44 AM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It is interesting to note that account of *Leucas chinensis* (Retz.) >>>>>> R. Br. in FoC is a bit different than Indin sites like >>>>>> http://keralaplants.in/keralaplantsdetails.aspx?id=Leucas_chinensis. >>>>>> Also one has to take note of calyx mouth >>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000929492. >>>>>> >>>>>> Interestingly, there is also one *Leucas mollissima* var. *chinensis* >>>>>> <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000929486>, >>>>>> one *L. chinensis* var. *lanata* ... etc which KEW >>>>>> <http://wfo.kew.org/taxon/urn:kew.org:wcs:taxon:111659> thinks are >>>>>> synonyms of *L. chinensis*. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> surajit >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:16 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Smita Madam, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I remember you identified my thread of *Leucas biflora* >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/RX4LT0YCOkY/vKha7wFYRfIJ >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Usually in *L. biflora* (Vahl) Sm. number of flowers per whorl is 1 >>>>>>> to 4 (sometimes upto 6) and flowers are pedicellate. Here the number of >>>>>>> flowers seems to be more than *biflora* and those flowers look >>>>>>> sessile. Moreover flowers are densely arranged. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, I request you to reconsider the ID of this species. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:36 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Leucas >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lamiaceae/leucas> >>>>>>>> species >>>>>>>> in eFloraofindia (with details/ *keys *from published papers/ >>>>>>>> regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever >>>>>>>> available) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>> From: Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Date: 2 May 2015 at 19:43 >>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:222426] Lamiaceae (incl. 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