Sorry, fragrance won't help Anurag ji, both *coreia* & *elliptica* are
fragrant as per Thailand doc.

I would say you should rely more on Santhan Ji regarding the id of this
species. My encounter with *Morinda* was only once.

My points in favour of *elliptica* are -

   - no amount of pubescence can be seen in either in leaves or in flowers
   - corolla tube looks shorter, but I can be wrong here do you have stats?
   - leaf margin somewhat undulate
   - somewhat curved filaments (not a strong point)

Now, you decide what species you have submitted.

Thank you

Regards

surajit


On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 12:22 AM, surajit koley <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Anurag Ji,
>
> Roxburgh's *M. angustifolia* has "bullate" leaf; FoC's leaf has 9-13
> pairs nerves
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242423341>.....
> so I will skip this.
>
> Roxburgh's *tinctoria* has fragrant flowers. Check this and check flower
> size to determine if it can be *coeria* or *elliptica*.
>
> My guess was based on FBI description of *elliptica* which has leaves
> similar to *angutifolia*.
>
> Thank you
>
> Regards
>
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi sir, I went 2 days back to get the mature leaves. Here are they are
>> attached. They almost always have 8 pairs, only once or twice vary as 9 and
>> 7.
>>
>> This would fit, as per your description, to *Morinda citrifolia* L. var. 
>> *elliptica
>> *in FBI and *Morinda elliptica *in the pdf you provided
>> *.*
>> While examining with a lens, I also found hairy domatia in the axils of
>> the lower lateral veins!
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:34 PM, surajit koley <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Anurag Ji,
>>>
>>> As per our group site (also the Bangladesh pdf) and
>>> http://www.keralaplants.in/keralaplantsdetails.aspx?id=Morinda_pubescens
>>>  -
>>> *Morinda pubescens* = *M. tinctoria* = *M. coreia*.
>>> As for "var." name what I learned from Gurcharan Sir is that a species
>>> will either have no subspecies/var./forma or if one is created by
>>> describing a new or by name change it will establish a minimum of two - (i)
>>> the newly named one (ii) one automatically created from the original
>>> specific epithet.
>>>
>>> Please check the attached pdf (I pasted the link in your other thread)
>>> for the KEY to *coreia*, *angustifolia* and *elliptica*.
>>> Also attached herewith FI description of *angustifolia*.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi sir, I have attached the list of species in Karnataka from Fl.
>>>> Karnataka Analysis. In addition, JCB reports one more species Morinda
>>>> pubescens var. pubescens
>>>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=4075&cat=1>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> And as you mentioned, the leaves I clicked up close might have been
>>>> young ones. I will go the place I found this and get the mature leaf
>>>> characters.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 12:17 AM, surajit koley <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Anurag Ji,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please note :
>>>>>
>>>>>    - I do not have latest materials to identify any species
>>>>>    - I do not know the species distribution in the given area
>>>>>    - I do not know which new (but BSI listed) species can be found in
>>>>>    our country besides the ones listed in FBI
>>>>>    - I do not know which listed species is now divided into separate
>>>>>    taxa and which are var. of a known taxon
>>>>>    - I do not find *Morinda concanensis* (there is mention of it in
>>>>>    eFI site) in FBI
>>>>>    - I have read all suggested id along with  in this thread, so far
>>>>>
>>>>> Please also note :- I am not sure about your leaf photographs. It
>>>>> seems to me those are immature leaves or partly mature. Because, the first
>>>>> pic shows some darker coloured leaves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I gonna give you my view. But, You Will Have to Ascertain How Many
>>>>> Secondary Veins are there in a Mature Leaf. If it is less than 9 pairs it
>>>>> is likely to be *Morinda citrifolia* L. var. *elliptica* of Flora of
>>>>> British India. Else it has several (but not all) characters of *M.
>>>>> angustifolia* Roxb.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:05 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> May be Morinda angustifolia.- from Bimal ji.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks more like *M. angustifolia  Check this link :*
>>>>>> http://biodiversity.bt/species/show/6314
>>>>>> Also check this website where key has been provided for ID of Morinda
>>>>>> species  (Bangladesh J. Bot.40 (2): 113-120, 2011 (December)TAXONOMIC
>>>>>> REVISION OF THE GENUS MORINDA):
>>>>>> http://www.banglajol.info/index.php/BJB/article/viewFile/9766/7250-
>>>>>> from Mahadeswara ji
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like Morinda citrifolia.
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Shobha
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  efi pages on Morinda citrifolia
>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/rubiaceae/morinda-citrifolia-l/morinda-citrifolia>
>>>>>>  &
>>>>>> Morinda angustifolia
>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/rubiaceae/morinda-citrifolia-l/morinda-angustifolia>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keys are also available at
>>>>>> Some species found in India with description & *keys* from Flora of
>>>>>> China
>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=121192>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Anurag Sharma <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: 25 April 2015 at 19:41
>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:221945] ANAPR61 Morinda sp. for identification
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Family: Rubiaceae
>>>>>> Date: 21st April 2015
>>>>>> Place: Bangalore, Karnataka
>>>>>> Habit: Tree
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