Thank you very much for your help sir. I will keep it as a maybe between the two species. Thanks to this discussion, I will be able to spot some Morinda species that I read up on.
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 8:23 AM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > Sorry, fragrance won't help Anurag ji, both *coreia* & *elliptica* are > fragrant as per Thailand doc. > > I would say you should rely more on Santhan Ji regarding the id of this > species. My encounter with *Morinda* was only once. > > My points in favour of *elliptica* are - > > - no amount of pubescence can be seen in either in leaves or in flowers > - corolla tube looks shorter, but I can be wrong here do you have > stats? > - leaf margin somewhat undulate > - somewhat curved filaments (not a strong point) > > Now, you decide what species you have submitted. > > Thank you > > Regards > > surajit > > > On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 12:22 AM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Anurag Ji, >> >> Roxburgh's *M. angustifolia* has "bullate" leaf; FoC's leaf has 9-13 >> pairs nerves >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242423341>..... >> so I will skip this. >> >> Roxburgh's *tinctoria* has fragrant flowers. Check this and check flower >> size to determine if it can be *coeria* or *elliptica*. >> >> My guess was based on FBI description of *elliptica* which has leaves >> similar to *angutifolia*. >> >> Thank you >> >> Regards >> >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi sir, I went 2 days back to get the mature leaves. Here are they are >>> attached. They almost always have 8 pairs, only once or twice vary as 9 and >>> 7. >>> >>> This would fit, as per your description, to *Morinda citrifolia* L. >>> var. *elliptica *in FBI and *Morinda elliptica *in the pdf you provided >>> *.* >>> While examining with a lens, I also found hairy domatia in the axils of >>> the lower lateral veins! >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:34 PM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Anurag Ji, >>>> >>>> As per our group site (also the Bangladesh pdf) and >>>> http://www.keralaplants.in/keralaplantsdetails.aspx?id=Morinda_pubescens >>>> - >>>> *Morinda pubescens* = *M. tinctoria* = *M. coreia*. >>>> As for "var." name what I learned from Gurcharan Sir is that a species >>>> will either have no subspecies/var./forma or if one is created by >>>> describing a new or by name change it will establish a minimum of two - (i) >>>> the newly named one (ii) one automatically created from the original >>>> specific epithet. >>>> >>>> Please check the attached pdf (I pasted the link in your other thread) >>>> for the KEY to *coreia*, *angustifolia* and *elliptica*. >>>> Also attached herewith FI description of *angustifolia*. >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi sir, I have attached the list of species in Karnataka from Fl. >>>>> Karnataka Analysis. In addition, JCB reports one more species Morinda >>>>> pubescens var. pubescens >>>>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=4075&cat=1> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> And as you mentioned, the leaves I clicked up close might have been >>>>> young ones. I will go the place I found this and get the mature leaf >>>>> characters. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 12:17 AM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Anurag Ji, >>>>>> >>>>>> Please note : >>>>>> >>>>>> - I do not have latest materials to identify any species >>>>>> - I do not know the species distribution in the given area >>>>>> - I do not know which new (but BSI listed) species can be found >>>>>> in our country besides the ones listed in FBI >>>>>> - I do not know which listed species is now divided into separate >>>>>> taxa and which are var. of a known taxon >>>>>> - I do not find *Morinda concanensis* (there is mention of it in >>>>>> eFI site) in FBI >>>>>> - I have read all suggested id along with in this thread, so far >>>>>> >>>>>> Please also note :- I am not sure about your leaf photographs. It >>>>>> seems to me those are immature leaves or partly mature. Because, the >>>>>> first >>>>>> pic shows some darker coloured leaves. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now I gonna give you my view. But, You Will Have to Ascertain How >>>>>> Many Secondary Veins are there in a Mature Leaf. If it is less than 9 >>>>>> pairs >>>>>> it is likely to be *Morinda citrifolia* L. var. *elliptica* of Flora >>>>>> of British India. Else it has several (but not all) characters of *M. >>>>>> angustifolia* Roxb. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:05 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> May be Morinda angustifolia.- from Bimal ji. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Looks more like *M. angustifolia Check this link :* >>>>>>> http://biodiversity.bt/species/show/6314 >>>>>>> Also check this website where key has been provided for ID of >>>>>>> Morinda species (Bangladesh J. Bot.40 (2): 113-120, 2011 >>>>>>> (December)TAXONOMIC REVISION OF THE GENUS MORINDA): >>>>>>> http://www.banglajol.info/index.php/BJB/article/viewFile/9766/7250- >>>>>>> from Mahadeswara ji >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Looks like Morinda citrifolia. >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Shobha >>>>>>> >>>>>>> efi pages on Morinda citrifolia >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/rubiaceae/morinda-citrifolia-l/morinda-citrifolia> >>>>>>> & >>>>>>> Morinda angustifolia >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/rubiaceae/morinda-citrifolia-l/morinda-angustifolia> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Keys are also available at >>>>>>> Some species found in India with description & *keys* from Flora of >>>>>>> China >>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=121192> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: 25 April 2015 at 19:41 >>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:221945] ANAPR61 Morinda sp. for >>>>>>> identification >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Family: Rubiaceae >>>>>>> Date: 21st April 2015 >>>>>>> Place: Bangalore, Karnataka >>>>>>> Habit: Tree >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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