Like Flora of China <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122307&flora_id=2>, appendix of *A. macrorrhizos* had also been clearly illustrated in literature below -
- http://www.botanicus.org/page/135981 - http://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/29095441#page/134/mode/1up But, appendix in my species differs. My concern is that should we ignore this difference assuming that other characters tally with *A. macrorrhizos*? Thank you Regards (simply) surajit koley ! no "Sir", no "Dr.", no "Ji" ! On 3 October 2015 at 15:03, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: surajit koley <[email protected]> > Date: 18 September 2015 at 11:15 > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:231418] sk2015sept09/09 - probably Arum > indicum Lour., Fl. Cochin. 536. 1790. Roxb., Fl. Ind. 3: 498. 1832. > To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> > Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > > > Many thanks to Dr. Matthews for his view and the document on Australasian > *Alocasia*. The shared doc informs appendix of *Alocasia* can be smooth > to sulcate to synandrodial to staminodial. The same doc informs in > *Alocasia* *macrorrhizos* (L.) G. Don appendix is staminodial. > > Now, what is staminodial appendix? I search and find one - > http://families.e-monocot.org/file-colorboxed/2957 (source > http://families.e-monocot.org/gallery?page=17). Attached here cropped > original picture of part of the appendix of this specimen. I am not sure if > this appendix can be called "staminodial". > > A KEW description > <http://www.kew.org/science-conservation/plants-fungi/alocasia-macrorrhizos-elephant-ear-taro> > tells me that appendix of *A. m.* has irregular furrows. Again I fail to > apprehend (1) how these furrows are different from the description of the > appendix above (2) if my specimen features those furrows. > > On the other hand FoC illustration > <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122307&flora_id=2> > shows different kind of appendix of *A. m.* > > Is appendix of *A. m.* variable, specially when it is cultivated? > Develops regional variability? In feature, in length? > > > > Thank you > Regards > surajit koley > a *non-botanist* member of > efloraofIndia google group > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 8:13 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, Peter ji. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Peter Matthews >> Date: 17 September 2015 at 21:02 >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:231418] sk2015sept09/09 - probably Arum >> indicum Lour., Fl. Cochin. 536. 1790. Roxb., Fl. Ind. 3: 498. 1832. >> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >> >> >> Dear Dr Garg, >> >> I can't reply with photos just now (not at my office until next week) but >> I think some photos of *Alocasia macrorrhizos i*n the Philippines will >> be useful for you to see. Hay suggested several years ago that *A. >> indica* is synonymous with *A. macrorrhizos*, and I think this is very >> likely to be true. >> >> Peter >> >> Dr Peter J. Matthews >> >> Field Sciences Laboratory & >> Department of Social Research >> National Museum of Ethnology, Senri Expo Park, Suita City, Osaka >> 565-8511, Japan. >> >> Tel. +81-6-6878-8344 (office). >> Tel. +81-6-6876-2151 (exchange, J. only) >> Fax. +81-6-6878-7503 (office) >> >> Administrator: The Research Cooperative - for researchers, editors, >> translators, illustrators and publishers. >> >> http://researchcooperative.org Please visit and join! >> >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 3:05 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>> >>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>> >>> efi page on *Alocasia macrorrhizos* >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/araceae/alocasia/alocasia-macrorhiza> >>> (syn: *Arum indicum *Lour.) >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]> >>> Date: 9 September 2015 at 22:37 >>> Subject: [efloraofindia:231418] sk2015sept09/09 - probably Arum indicum >>> Lour., Fl. Cochin. 536. 1790. Roxb., Fl. Ind. 3: 498. 1832. >>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>> Cc: M Sawmliana <[email protected]>, Pudji Widodo < >>> [email protected]> >>> >>> >>> This defies FoC's description of the genus, "appendix conic to >>> cylindric, *with irregular, labyrinthine network of fissures*." >>> >>> Sorry, Sawmliana Ji for misleading many times that *Alocasia* must have >>> appendix as described in FoC. >>> >>> This species is photographed today, and my first record of flowers of >>> this species whatever the taxon might turn out! >>> >>> >>> Thank you >>> Regards >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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