Thank you Garg Sir for making another resurface. I think certain id related threads would remain unresolved due to several constraints.
Regards surajit On 10 October 2015 at 13:05, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: surajit koley <[email protected]> > Date: 3 October 2015 at 23:53 > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:231418] sk2015sept09/09 - probably Arum > indicum Lour., Fl. Cochin. 536. 1790. Roxb., Fl. Ind. 3: 498. 1832. > To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> > Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > > > Like Flora of China > <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122307&flora_id=2>, > appendix of *A. macrorrhizos* had also been clearly illustrated in > literature below - > > - http://www.botanicus.org/page/135981 > - http://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/29095441#page/134/mode/1up > > But, appendix in my species differs. > > My concern is that should we ignore this difference assuming that other > characters tally with *A. macrorrhizos*? > > Thank you > Regards > (simply) surajit koley > ! no "Sir", no "Dr.", no "Ji" ! > > > On 3 October 2015 at 15:03, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: surajit koley <[email protected]> >> Date: 18 September 2015 at 11:15 >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:231418] sk2015sept09/09 - probably Arum >> indicum Lour., Fl. Cochin. 536. 1790. Roxb., Fl. Ind. 3: 498. 1832. >> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> >> >> Many thanks to Dr. Matthews for his view and the document on Australasian >> *Alocasia*. The shared doc informs appendix of *Alocasia* can be smooth >> to sulcate to synandrodial to staminodial. The same doc informs in >> *Alocasia* *macrorrhizos* (L.) G. Don appendix is staminodial. >> >> Now, what is staminodial appendix? I search and find one - >> http://families.e-monocot.org/file-colorboxed/2957 (source >> http://families.e-monocot.org/gallery?page=17). Attached here cropped >> original picture of part of the appendix of this specimen. I am not sure if >> this appendix can be called "staminodial". >> >> A KEW description >> <http://www.kew.org/science-conservation/plants-fungi/alocasia-macrorrhizos-elephant-ear-taro> >> tells me that appendix of *A. m.* has irregular furrows. Again I fail to >> apprehend (1) how these furrows are different from the description of the >> appendix above (2) if my specimen features those furrows. >> >> On the other hand FoC illustration >> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122307&flora_id=2> >> shows different kind of appendix of *A. m.* >> >> Is appendix of *A. m.* variable, specially when it is cultivated? >> Develops regional variability? In feature, in length? >> >> >> >> Thank you >> Regards >> surajit koley >> a *non-botanist* member of >> efloraofIndia google group >> >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 8:13 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Peter ji. >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Peter Matthews >>> Date: 17 September 2015 at 21:02 >>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:231418] sk2015sept09/09 - probably Arum >>> indicum Lour., Fl. Cochin. 536. 1790. Roxb., Fl. Ind. 3: 498. 1832. >>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Dear Dr Garg, >>> >>> I can't reply with photos just now (not at my office until next week) >>> but I think some photos of *Alocasia macrorrhizos i*n the Philippines >>> will be useful for you to see. Hay suggested several years ago that *A. >>> indica* is synonymous with *A. macrorrhizos*, and I think this is very >>> likely to be true. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> Dr Peter J. Matthews >>> >>> Field Sciences Laboratory & >>> Department of Social Research >>> National Museum of Ethnology, Senri Expo Park, Suita City, Osaka >>> 565-8511, Japan. >>> >>> Tel. +81-6-6878-8344 (office). >>> Tel. +81-6-6876-2151 (exchange, J. only) >>> Fax. +81-6-6878-7503 (office) >>> >>> Administrator: The Research Cooperative - for researchers, editors, >>> translators, illustrators and publishers. >>> >>> http://researchcooperative.org Please visit and join! >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 3:05 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>> >>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>> >>>> efi page on *Alocasia macrorrhizos* >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/araceae/alocasia/alocasia-macrorhiza> >>>> (syn: *Arum indicum *Lour.) >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]> >>>> Date: 9 September 2015 at 22:37 >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:231418] sk2015sept09/09 - probably Arum indicum >>>> Lour., Fl. Cochin. 536. 1790. Roxb., Fl. Ind. 3: 498. 1832. >>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: M Sawmliana <[email protected]>, Pudji Widodo < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> This defies FoC's description of the genus, "appendix conic to >>>> cylindric, *with irregular, labyrinthine network of fissures*." >>>> >>>> Sorry, Sawmliana Ji for misleading many times that *Alocasia* must >>>> have appendix as described in FoC. >>>> >>>> This species is photographed today, and my first record of flowers of >>>> this species whatever the taxon might turn out! >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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