I paste a couple of links for more reading/viewing for my own reference - - http://www.scielo.br/img/revistas/abb/v27n3/a12fig01-5.jpg - source of above http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0102-33062013000300012&script=sci_arttext - *caroliniana* - http://www.juno.dti.ne.jp/~skknari/Commelina%20.caroliniana%202012..html - related - https://ww1.fukuoka-edu.ac.jp/~fukuhara/keitai/tsuyukusa.html
Thank you Regards (simply) surajit koley ! no "Sir", no "Dr.", no "Ji" ! On 4 October 2015 at 19:17, surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote: > Regarding flower size, whatever Haines might have recorded in his book > BoBO, there is no question of confusing *Commelina longifolia* Lam. with *C. > diffusa* Burm.f. (or that with *C. hasskarlii* C. B. Clarke / *C. > caroliniana* Walter). > > *C. longifolia* Lam. has the largest flower and equal petals I have ever > seen. > > The confusion is between *C. hasskarlii* C. B. Clarke (synonymous with *C. > caroliniana* Walter) and *C. diffusa* Burm. f. and the discussion is open > in https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/aulqw5hOoZk/C02DimNGFwAJ. > > I think my pond species is *C. caroliniana* Walter (syn. *C. hasskarlii* C.B. > Clarke), for its less or no falcate spathe. > > Thank you > Regards > (simply) surajit koley > ! no "Sir", no "Dr.", no "Ji" ! > > > On 4 October 2015 at 13:55, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: surajit koley <[email protected]> >> Date: 20 September 2015 at 00:12 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:232188] Re: sk2015sept02/02 - BSI checklist of >> Commelina >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> >> >> This is what Lamarck noted on *C. longifolia* - >> http://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/33349848#page/155/mode/1up. BSI >> informs the species is distributed in Peninsular, E & NE India. Isn't it >> surprising that till to date we have no representative in our database? >> >> This is the only species I have ever come across which has larger flowers >> then the rest. I was very confused when Mayur Ji and Manudev Ji identified >> two of my threads, featuring this large flower, as *C. diffusa* Burm f. >> More so, because earlier Mayur Ji identified a smaller flower (where petals >> are not equal) a species as *C. diffusa* Burm.. f. >> >> I have Mayur Ji's paper on *C. beddomei* and Manudev Ji's paper on *C. >> andamanica* with me. So. I still feel shaky while writing this. >> >> I came to know that *C. coelestis* Willd. looks similar in another >> thread, but differs in some respect - >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/RaAjZgNORCA/74FO9kxJeTAJ. >> >> Even the Bangladesh doc i uploaded in one of my recent threads is >> confusing! >> >> With so many pseudobotanists (me too!) playing in the net there are only >> two pics of *C. longifolia* - >> >> - https://www.flickr.com/photos/haile/2384267981 >> - https://www.flickr.com/photos/haile/2385099498 >> >> Where is Roxburgh's *C. salicifolia*, I thought! >> >> As for *C. hasskarlii* C.B. Clarke, the docs and the links I shared in >> another my recent thread will tell that it is exceedingly similar to *C. >> diffusa* Burm. f. The description in efloras would tell the flowers are >> of the size of *C. benghalensis*. >> >> BSi informs *C. hasskarlii* is distributed throughout our country yet we >> do not have it in our database!!! >> >> >> Thank you >> Regards >> surajit koley >> a *non-botanist* member of >> efloraofIndia google group >> >> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:26 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I am very surprised that why both FBI and BoBo recorded flowers of *C. >>> salicifolia* Roxb. are small while Roxburgh himslef noted flowers are >>> large and petals are equal..! >>> >>> Thank you >>> Regards >>> surajit koley >>> a *non-botanist* member of >>> efloraofIndia google group >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:41 PM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> This is no particular species photographs. It's an introduction to my >>>> next couple of threads. >>>> >>>> We have BSI checklist of the genus now - >>>> http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/speciesList_PCL.action?resultType=genusWise&parent_Id=2431&parent_Name=commelina >>>> . >>>> >>>> Interestingly, *Commelina diffusa* Burm. f. likely not to be found in >>>> our area. This is because Hooghly district (South of West Bengal) doesn't >>>> fall under the BSI specified regional distribution of the species >>>> http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/speciesDesc_PCL.action?species_id=2483 >>>> . >>>> >>>> Yet, Sir Prain thought it was distributed in the western & northern >>>> provinces of then Bengal. Haines also recorded the same in his book BoBO. >>>> lease check the attached literature. >>>> >>>> So, I keep the species, *C. diffusa* Burm.f. in my following table - >>>> >>>> >>>> speciesdistributionleavesspatheflower1C. diffusa Burm, f.Peninsular, >>>> NE & NW India, E Himalaya, Andaman & Nicobarlanceolate, 1.5-3 x >>>> 0.33-0.67 inch, ciliate0.67-1 inch, acute, base rounded or cordate, >>>> striate >>>> >>>> Haines = 0.75-2 inchsmaller petals blue, outer pale or white >>>> >>>> Haines = flower blue 0.5 inch diam2C. longifolia Lam. = C. salicifolia >>>> Roxb.Peninsular, E, NE Indialinear lanceolate, 3-6 x 0.16-0.5 inch, >>>> nearly glabrous, sheaths ciliolate1.5-2 inch, axillary, solitary, >>>> acute to acuminate, base roundedsmall, dark blue >>>> >>>> Haines = smaller than diffusa3C. hasskarlii C.B.Cl >>>> <http://c.b.cl/>.throughout >>>> Indianarrowly lanceolate, 1-3 x 0.5-0.67 inch, subacute to obtuse, >>>> sheaths short0.5-1 inch, axillary, base rounded, longer than peduncle, >>>> 4C. attenuata Koen. ex vahlalmost throughout Indialinear or >>>> lanceolate, 1-2 (3 Haines) x 0.25-0.5 inch, obtuse or sub-acute0.33-1.5 >>>> inch, acute or caudate-acuminate, longer than peduncles, base auricled, >>>> deeply cordatesmall, blue >>>> >>>> Haines = very small, brownish sepal5C. apendiculata C.B.Cl >>>> <http://c.b.cl/>.E, NE India, E Himalayalinear or linear-lanceolate, >>>> 4-6 x 0.17-0.67 inch, narrowed at both ends,very long peduncled, 2-3 >>>> inch, caudate-acuminate, base cordate >>>> 6C. benghalensis L.throughout India >>>> >>>> >>>> 7C. maculata Edgwe. = C. obliqua Buch-Ham. ex D. Don = C. paludosa >>>> Bl.throughout >>>> Indialanceolate, 4-7 x 1-2 inch, acute or caudate-acuminate,0.75-1.5 >>>> inch, usually in terminal heads, solitary or crowded, funnel shapedblue >>>> 8C. suffruticosa Bl.C, N, E & NE Indialanceolate, 3-14 x 0.75-2 inch, >>>> acuminate, sheaths auricled0.33-0.5 inch, panicled or clustered >>>> >>>> Haines = spathe funnel shaped >>>> 9 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *C. tuberosa* L. also likely to be found in our region as per BSI. But >>>> that species is different than the usual ones I see around. So, I left the >>>> 9th space of my table blank. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> Regards >>>> surajit koley >>>> a *non-botanist* member of >>>> efloraofIndia google group >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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