A reply: "Thanks for the opportunity to identify a *Cissus* from Andhra Pradesh. Although I am reluctant to identify the critical species with pictures, your mail initiated me to look into *Cissus* in general in Andhra Pradesh/Telangana. We have *Cissus* species sprouting from root stocks, every year after first showers in Ragnareddy and other western/drier parts of Telangana and Telangana. Of interest are the species of the genus with herbaceous to shrubby habit (shoots ephemeral), with no or occasional tendrils. The species in the picture from Anantapur district appears, in all likelihood, to be *C. arnottiana* Shetty & Para.Singh.
Erect shrubs with stems terete or obscurely angled, leaves large and more or less orbicular lead to *C. pallida* (Wight & Arn.) Planch. (as per the key provided in Flora of Andhra Pradesh [FAP] by Pullaiah & Chennaiah 1997: 214). This species was reported by his PhD student N. Yesoda (NY 624) from Bukkapatnam RF in Fl. Anantapur Distr. (1989:64) There were collections of the species by JS Gamble from the same district (not reported in Fl. Andhra Pradesh) and Cuddapah. The authors of FAP did miss the paper of Shetty & Singh (1989) which was published much earlier to the publication of the State flora (1997), and therefore the name *C. pallida*, remained extant. Since the name *C. pallida* (Wight & Arn.) Salisb. (1840) is nom. illegitimate (non *Cissus pallida* Salisb.(1796) and misapplied, Shetty & Singh (Kew Bull. 44: 1989) chose to describe a new taxon (for *C. pallida* sensu Planch., Gamble, etc.) after segregating some of the specimens of the syntype (*C. heyneana* Wallich num. list. 5988 c-f) and naming it after one of the authors of *Vitis pallida*, G.A.Waker-Arnott. The habit of drawing of *C. arnottiana* was drawn from JS Gamble collection 15256 (K) from Kottakota hills in Anantapur district (Andhra). Dr Wight collected this taxon in May 1824, from Hyderabad (Telangana). Some of the early collections, comparable those in the picture, were named as *Cissus glabra* nob. In Fl. Eastern Ghats, Pullaiah & Rao (2002: 288) cited those specimens of *C. pallida* in FAP rightly under *C. arnottiana*. As per Flora of India (BSI e-online key and earlier Fl India (5: 278. 2000), shrubs with simple petiolate leaves lead us to three species of *Cissus* of which *C. vitiginea* is pubescent. The other two are *C. arnottiana* and *C. woodrowii*. However, the leaf-size differ is used to key out them (Lamina 20-30 × 20-25 cm and petioles 15-25 cm; these measurement may be of basal leaves while our herbarium specimens have distal leaves which are usually smaller] characterize* C. woodrowii* while *C. arnottiana* have smaller leaves (7-20 × 7-20 cm) with shorter petioles (4-15 cm) Talbolt (Forest Fl. Bomaby 1: 309.1909) merged the former with *C. pallida* sensu Planch. Shetty & Singh (2000) almost agreed with the view but left it for future studies. But, the pictures of *C. woodrowii* hosted by you [images JM Garg] have smaller leaves and flowers white and fruits apparently different and is a good species. The type of *C. woodrowii* has the stem woody, with several annual growth rings of wood displayed for good. The leaves are tri-lobed distally (also see picture cf. http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Woodrow's%20Grape%20Tree.html ). This discussion is expected to facilitate more field data gathering and fresh collections for Vitaceae in India which may result in describing some more new species which are in store. *Vatsavaya S Raju* *Retd. Professor* Plant Systematics Laboratory Department of Botany, Kakaitya University, Warangal, Telangana - 506 0009" Thanks, Dr. Raju. On 2 November 2015 at 12:09, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Forwarding again for Id assistance please. > > Some earlier relevant feedback: > > Cissus sp. > <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fefloraindia.nic.in%2Fefloraindia%2FtaxonList.action%3Fid%3D4758%26type%3D3&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNF8_dvZGA1_akXYhglqqXKVac-yaw> > > -- > Anurag N. Sharma > > > > Cissus > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/cissus> > species in eFloraofindia (with details/ *keys *from published papers/ > regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever > available on net) > > Yes, may be Cissus arnottiana or C. woodrowii. -- > Vijayasankar > > efi page on Cissus woodrowii > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/cissus/cissus-woodrowii> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Arun Mahalingam <[email protected]> > Date: 17 October 2015 at 16:01 > Subject: [efloraofindia:233895] Plant ID. > To: [email protected] > > > Require ID for a plant from Anantapur, Andhra Pradesh. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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