what a nice scholarly elaboration
with all proper references

i appreciate this write up of Dr Raju

usha di

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 2:42 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> A reply:
> "Thanks for the opportunity to identify a *Cissus* from Andhra Pradesh.
> Although I am reluctant to identify the critical species with pictures,
> your mail initiated me to look into *Cissus* in general in Andhra
> Pradesh/Telangana.  We have *Cissus* species sprouting from root stocks,
> every year after first showers in Ragnareddy and other western/drier parts
> of Telangana and Telangana.  Of interest are the species of the genus with
> herbaceous to shrubby habit (shoots ephemeral), with no or occasional
> tendrils. The species in the picture from Anantapur district appears, in
> all likelihood, to be *C. arnottiana* Shetty & Para.Singh.
>
>
>
> Erect shrubs with stems terete or obscurely angled, leaves large and more
> or less orbicular lead to *C. pallida* (Wight & Arn.) Planch. (as per the
> key provided in Flora of Andhra Pradesh [FAP] by Pullaiah & Chennaiah 1997:
> 214).  This species was reported by his PhD student N. Yesoda  (NY 624)
> from Bukkapatnam RF in Fl. Anantapur Distr. (1989:64)  There were
> collections of the species by JS Gamble from the same district (not
> reported in Fl. Andhra Pradesh) and Cuddapah.  The authors of FAP did miss
> the paper of Shetty & Singh (1989) which was published much earlier to the
> publication of the State flora (1997), and therefore the name *C. pallida*,
> remained extant.
>
>
>
> Since the name *C. pallida* (Wight & Arn.) Salisb. (1840) is nom.
> illegitimate (non *Cissus pallida* Salisb.(1796) and misapplied, Shetty &
> Singh (Kew Bull. 44: 1989) chose to describe  a new taxon (for *C.
> pallida* sensu Planch., Gamble, etc.) after segregating some of the
> specimens of the syntype (*C. heyneana* Wallich num. list. 5988 c-f) and
> naming it after one of the authors of *Vitis pallida*, G.A.Waker-Arnott.
>
>
>
> The habit of drawing of *C. arnottiana* was drawn from JS Gamble
> collection 15256 (K) from Kottakota hills in Anantapur district (Andhra).
> Dr Wight collected this taxon in May 1824, from Hyderabad (Telangana). Some
> of the early collections, comparable those in the picture, were named as 
> *Cissus
> glabra* nob. In Fl. Eastern Ghats, Pullaiah & Rao (2002: 288) cited those
> specimens of *C. pallida* in FAP rightly under *C. arnottiana*.
>
>
>
> As per Flora of India (BSI e-online key and earlier Fl India (5: 278.
> 2000), shrubs with simple petiolate leaves lead us to three species of
> *Cissus* of which *C. vitiginea* is pubescent. The other two are *C.
> arnottiana* and *C. woodrowii*.   However, the leaf-size differ is used
> to key out them (Lamina 20-30 × 20-25 cm and petioles 15-25 cm; these
> measurement may be of basal leaves while our herbarium specimens have
> distal leaves which are usually smaller] characterize* C. woodrowii*
> while *C. arnottiana* have smaller leaves (7-20 × 7-20 cm) with shorter
> petioles (4-15 cm) Talbolt (Forest Fl. Bomaby 1: 309.1909) merged the
> former with *C. pallida* sensu Planch. Shetty & Singh (2000) almost
> agreed with the view but left it for future studies.  But, the pictures of *C.
> woodrowii* hosted by you [images JM Garg] have smaller leaves and flowers
> white and fruits apparently different and is a good species.  The type of *C.
> woodrowii* has the stem woody, with several annual growth rings of wood
> displayed for good. The leaves are tri-lobed distally (also see picture cf.
> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Woodrow's%20Grape%20Tree.html
> ).
>
> This discussion is expected to facilitate more field data gathering and
> fresh collections for Vitaceae in India which may result in describing some
> more new species which are in store.
>
>
> *Vatsavaya S Raju*
> *Retd. Professor*
> Plant Systematics Laboratory
> Department of Botany, Kakaitya University, Warangal, Telangana - 506 0009"
>
> Thanks, Dr. Raju.
>
>
> On 2 November 2015 at 12:09, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>
>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>
>> Cissus sp.
>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fefloraindia.nic.in%2Fefloraindia%2FtaxonList.action%3Fid%3D4758%26type%3D3&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNF8_dvZGA1_akXYhglqqXKVac-yaw>
>>
>> --
>> Anurag N. Sharma
>>
>>
>>
>> Cissus
>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/cissus>
>>  species in eFloraofindia (with details/ *keys *from published papers/
>> regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever
>> available on net)
>>
>> Yes, may be Cissus arnottiana or C. woodrowii. --
>> Vijayasankar
>>
>> efi page on Cissus woodrowii
>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/cissus/cissus-woodrowii>
>>
>>
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>> From: Arun Mahalingam <[email protected]>
>> Date: 17 October 2015 at 16:01
>> Subject: [efloraofindia:233895] Plant ID.
>> To: [email protected]
>>
>>
>> Require ID for a plant from Anantapur, Andhra Pradesh.
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