what a nice scholarly elaboration with all proper references i appreciate this write up of Dr Raju
usha di On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 2:42 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > A reply: > "Thanks for the opportunity to identify a *Cissus* from Andhra Pradesh. > Although I am reluctant to identify the critical species with pictures, > your mail initiated me to look into *Cissus* in general in Andhra > Pradesh/Telangana. We have *Cissus* species sprouting from root stocks, > every year after first showers in Ragnareddy and other western/drier parts > of Telangana and Telangana. Of interest are the species of the genus with > herbaceous to shrubby habit (shoots ephemeral), with no or occasional > tendrils. The species in the picture from Anantapur district appears, in > all likelihood, to be *C. arnottiana* Shetty & Para.Singh. > > > > Erect shrubs with stems terete or obscurely angled, leaves large and more > or less orbicular lead to *C. pallida* (Wight & Arn.) Planch. (as per the > key provided in Flora of Andhra Pradesh [FAP] by Pullaiah & Chennaiah 1997: > 214). This species was reported by his PhD student N. Yesoda (NY 624) > from Bukkapatnam RF in Fl. Anantapur Distr. (1989:64) There were > collections of the species by JS Gamble from the same district (not > reported in Fl. Andhra Pradesh) and Cuddapah. The authors of FAP did miss > the paper of Shetty & Singh (1989) which was published much earlier to the > publication of the State flora (1997), and therefore the name *C. pallida*, > remained extant. > > > > Since the name *C. pallida* (Wight & Arn.) Salisb. (1840) is nom. > illegitimate (non *Cissus pallida* Salisb.(1796) and misapplied, Shetty & > Singh (Kew Bull. 44: 1989) chose to describe a new taxon (for *C. > pallida* sensu Planch., Gamble, etc.) after segregating some of the > specimens of the syntype (*C. heyneana* Wallich num. list. 5988 c-f) and > naming it after one of the authors of *Vitis pallida*, G.A.Waker-Arnott. > > > > The habit of drawing of *C. arnottiana* was drawn from JS Gamble > collection 15256 (K) from Kottakota hills in Anantapur district (Andhra). > Dr Wight collected this taxon in May 1824, from Hyderabad (Telangana). Some > of the early collections, comparable those in the picture, were named as > *Cissus > glabra* nob. In Fl. Eastern Ghats, Pullaiah & Rao (2002: 288) cited those > specimens of *C. pallida* in FAP rightly under *C. arnottiana*. > > > > As per Flora of India (BSI e-online key and earlier Fl India (5: 278. > 2000), shrubs with simple petiolate leaves lead us to three species of > *Cissus* of which *C. vitiginea* is pubescent. The other two are *C. > arnottiana* and *C. woodrowii*. However, the leaf-size differ is used > to key out them (Lamina 20-30 × 20-25 cm and petioles 15-25 cm; these > measurement may be of basal leaves while our herbarium specimens have > distal leaves which are usually smaller] characterize* C. woodrowii* > while *C. arnottiana* have smaller leaves (7-20 × 7-20 cm) with shorter > petioles (4-15 cm) Talbolt (Forest Fl. Bomaby 1: 309.1909) merged the > former with *C. pallida* sensu Planch. Shetty & Singh (2000) almost > agreed with the view but left it for future studies. But, the pictures of *C. > woodrowii* hosted by you [images JM Garg] have smaller leaves and flowers > white and fruits apparently different and is a good species. The type of *C. > woodrowii* has the stem woody, with several annual growth rings of wood > displayed for good. The leaves are tri-lobed distally (also see picture cf. > http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Woodrow's%20Grape%20Tree.html > ). > > This discussion is expected to facilitate more field data gathering and > fresh collections for Vitaceae in India which may result in describing some > more new species which are in store. > > > *Vatsavaya S Raju* > *Retd. Professor* > Plant Systematics Laboratory > Department of Botany, Kakaitya University, Warangal, Telangana - 506 0009" > > Thanks, Dr. Raju. > > > On 2 November 2015 at 12:09, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >> >> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> >> Cissus sp. >> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fefloraindia.nic.in%2Fefloraindia%2FtaxonList.action%3Fid%3D4758%26type%3D3&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNF8_dvZGA1_akXYhglqqXKVac-yaw> >> >> -- >> Anurag N. Sharma >> >> >> >> Cissus >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/cissus> >> species in eFloraofindia (with details/ *keys *from published papers/ >> regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever >> available on net) >> >> Yes, may be Cissus arnottiana or C. woodrowii. -- >> Vijayasankar >> >> efi page on Cissus woodrowii >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/cissus/cissus-woodrowii> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Arun Mahalingam <[email protected]> >> Date: 17 October 2015 at 16:01 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:233895] Plant ID. >> To: [email protected] >> >> >> Require ID for a plant from Anantapur, Andhra Pradesh. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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