That's interesting, Dr. Swamy
I share your views and appreciate the reference link

but i also wonder....
how does one compare the fruit and flower sizes in one tree specimen ?

would we need a set of samples? like the   toptropical nursery owners do,
they have lots of trees growing in their nursery ...

this is always a conundrum when we see one tree.



Also the mayan civilization, that used these trees for domestic use..
have both wild and domesticated populations and in that there is marked
difference in genetic variation with end result  in the habit, ;leaves and
fruits being of different sizes and characteristics etc

1:
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/225691620_Diversity_of_the_calabash_
tree_%28Crescentia_cujete_L.%29_in_Colombia

two full text papers from PUBMED from NIH USA

2: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3359923/
3: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3842825/

so how do we know if we are seeing  offspring of a wild vareity or
offspring of the domesticated variety

maybe Gurcharanji can give us an opinion? please
Tapasda?

thanks

usha di


On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 5:39 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: M Swamy <[email protected]>
> Date: 15 November 2015 at 16:57
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:235534] TSPNOV2015-19:images of Crescentia
> cujete (Bignoniaceae)
> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
>
>
> In view of the remarks of Srikant ji you may please check for C.alata
> also.
> Crescentia alata is similar to Crescentia cujete
> <http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/crescentia_cujete.htm> except that
> both fruits and flowers are smaller  as per toptropicals.com   :
> http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/Crescentia_alata.htm
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 1:00 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>
>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>> This should be C alata looking at leaves and flowers. Please check.
>> Regards
>>
>> Shrikant
>>
>> efi page on Crescentia alata
>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/b/bignoniaceae/crescentia/crescentia-alata>
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>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: tsp kumar <[email protected]>
>> Date: 7 November 2015 at 10:17
>> Subject: [efloraofindia:235534] TSPNOV2015-19:images of Crescentia cujete
>> (Bignoniaceae)
>> To: [email protected]
>>
>>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> It is my pleasure to share few images of *Crescentia cujete *
>> (Bignoniaceae)
>>
>> Habit: Medium sized tree
>>
>> Habitat: Cultivated
>> .
>> Sighting: Devarayanadurga,Tumkur,Karnataka.
>>
>> Date: 07-07-2014,10-11-2014,14-06-2015 and 5-10-2015
>>
>> Thanks and regards
>> tspkumar
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