Thanks, Nidhan ji On 20 Oct 2016 1:46 pm, "Nidhan Singh" <nidhansingh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Garg Ji and Chris Ji, > > I am sorry to unnecessarily prolong the matter. The delay on my part was > mainly due to the fact that I could not ascertain the exact locality of > collection of this plant. The area visited ranges in altitude from 2200 m > (Munsiyari) to 650 m (Jauljibi), passing through 2010 m (Chokouri) and 1900 > m (Kosani). > I assume this plant to be collected near Kosani on Kosani-Ranikhet route > i.e. from 1500-1600 m. > > (P.S.- As I generally name the identified plants as soon as they are > identified in the original folder itself, the sequence of pics as recorded > in camera is lost, making the things jumbled). > > Thanks > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 10:09 PM, C CHADWELL <chrischadwell261@btinternet. > com> wrote: > >> Still waiting to learn the altitudinal range this plant was observed at? >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> >> Chris Chadwell >> >> >> 81 Parlaunt Road >> SLOUGH >> SL3 8BE >> UK >> >> www.shpa.org.uk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >> *To:* Nidhan Singh <nidhansingh...@gmail.com> >> *Cc:* chrischadwell...@btinternet.com; efloraofindia < >> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, 19 October 2016, 11:45 >> *Subject:* Fwd: Fwd: [efloraofindia:157618] Asteraceae Fortnight Part >> 2-Discoid Heads: Echinops for id from Gori Valley- NS 47 >> >> Hi, Nidhan ji, >> May we have your feedback pl. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: *C CHADWELL* <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> >> Date: 12 October 2016 at 23:38 >> Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:157618] Asteraceae Fortnight Part >> 2-Discoid Heads: Echinops for id from Gori Valley- NS 47 >> To: "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com>, efloraofindia < >> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >> Cc: Nidhan Singh <nidhansingh...@gmail.com> >> >> >> Dear Dr Singh >> >> Would be helpful to know the altitudinal range of locations in Gori >> Valley where you found this Echinops? >> >> I do not have any check-lists for Uttarakhand to help but 'Enumeration of >> the Flowering Plants of Nepal' Vol III (1982) >> only lists 2 species: E.cornigerus and *E.niveus*. This publication >> gives a distribution for every species and altitudinal >> range in Nepal. >> >> *It is likely that your specimen is one of these species. Does not match >> what I understand to be E.cornigerus* >> >> *E.cornigerus* is recorded (in Nepal) from 2400-3300m; E.niveus from >> 1400-1700m (only in W.Nepal). >> >> Your images certainly look very different to the *E.cornigerus* I know >> from Ladakh (accepting that the climatic conditions >> would be much more arid and hot during summer months than in the Gori >> Valley). >> >> Yes, the foliage is markedly dissected but I am not familiar with this >> species in the wild. I draw your attention to a pressed specimen in the >> Kew herbarium collected by Blinkworth almost 200 years ago (I think in what >> is now Uttarakhand) with similar dissected foliage of *E.niveus*. >> There is also a specimen from what was Burma named as var. *burmanicus* >> which suggests varieties have been recognised. >> >> The line drawing of *E.niveus* in 'Flora Simlensis' shows dissected >> foliage with linear lobes. >> >> I also note that Stewart records *E.niveus* to 2700m and Eastwards to >> Garwhal. *Will the elevation you found this globe thistle help* >> *provide supporting evidence, or not?* >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> >> Chris Chadwell >> >> >> 81 Parlaunt Road >> SLOUGH >> SL3 8BE >> UK >> >> www.shpa.org.uk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >> *To:* efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups. com >> <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>> >> *Cc:* Nidhan Singh <nidhansingh...@gmail.com>; chrischadwell261@btinternet. >> com <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, 12 October 2016, 9:47 >> *Subject:* Fwd: [efloraofindia:157618] Asteraceae Fortnight Part >> 2-Discoid Heads: Echinops for id from Gori Valley- NS 47 >> >> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> May be Echinops niveus >> Krishan Lal >> >> It may be some other species in view of comments of Chadwell ji in another >> thread >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/fKx4yJ527Os>. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: *Nidhan Singh* <nidhansingh...@gmail.com> >> Date: 14 June 2013 at 19:54 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:157618] Asteraceae Fortnight Part 2-Discoid >> Heads: Echinops for id from Gori Valley- NS 47 >> To: indiantreepix <indiantreepix@googlegroups. com >> <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>> >> >> >> Dear All, >> >> This *Echinops?* sp. was shot from various locations in Gori valley >> area..the flower heads are bluish, the spines shorter than the flowers in >> mature heads, leaves much dissected than *Echinops niveus*..please help >> to fix the id... >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Dr. Nidhan Singh >> Assistant Professor >> Department of Botany >> I.B. (PG) College >> Panipat-132103 Haryana >> Ph.: 09416371227 >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to indiantreepix+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.com >> <indiantreepix%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/indiantreepix >> <http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/ groups/opt_out >> <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > > Dr. Nidhan Singh > Assistant Professor > Department of Botany > I.B. (PG) College > Panipat-132103 Haryana > Ph.: 09416371227 > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
